States' Rights

[SlowwHand]

I love you , Imran.
You know, in a human to human way.
As far as you, MISTERFun, baloney.
Look just through visible threads, and look at your rantings about anything remotely Southern.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by MrFun
I have read about the violent riots against Chinese immigrants in parts of California in the 1880's.

I have also read about the bounties put on women, children, and men of the native tribes in California.

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Actually, I was thinking of the series of SCOTUS cases and Federal anti-Chinese immigration laws. And bounties on natives were common all over the US.

However, seeing as neither of those fit in with your established troll theme, I'm not surprised you chose to blow them off with one liners.

You just have the hots for those big, strapping, manly southern boys, that's all.

[JohnT]

"I said the real notion of equality - merely having the technical right to vote and being styled a citizen does not create racial equality. "

Tsk-tsk, MtG. Do you not realize yet that to some people the implementing of a law IS the solution, regardless of the real world effects?

[JohnT]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Yet you never speak out about the OTHER discrimination. You are a one trick pony about 'Southern whites'.

Dah-da-DAH!

Sorry, couldn't resist. I hope I got the link to work right.

Edit: Oh, well. Scroll down to my second post.

[MichaeltheGreat]

[MrFun]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


Actually, I was thinking of the series of SCOTUS cases and Federal anti-Chinese immigration laws. And bounties on natives were common all over the US.

However, seeing as neither of those fit in with your established troll theme, I'm not surprised you chose to blow them off with one liners.

You just have the hots for those big, strapping, manly southern boys, that's all.

One liners? If you want me to write an entire book about everything I know in regards to the history of the United States here on Apolyton, just to cover all of my bases, then why didn't you say so?

As for your last comment -- I don't find you attractive at all. Sorry to break your rebel, heart.

And read about what I said, about some gays and lesbians who discriminate against bisexuals.

[Imran Siddiqui]

John:

Mr Fun, maybe not a one liner, one trick pony more like it .

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by MrFun
As for your last comment -- I don't find you attractive at all. Sorry to break your rebel, heart.

Why thank you. I shall rest safer at night, secure in that knowledge.

And read about what I said, about some gays and lesbians who discriminate against bisexuals.

They should just stick to discriminating against breeders.

[SlowwHand]

Breeders. Ha!

[ThePantaloonDog]

The Southern states succeeded because of slavery.

The North attacked the Southern states to keep the Union together, not because of slavery.

I find that people from the North like to think that the North was a progressive utopia where every was treated equally. Of course it was far from the truth.

I also find that people from the South begin to froth at the mouth at the mention of the "War of Northern Agression." I find nothing in the Constitution giving states the right to succeed from the Union.

While in many cases white supremecists used state's rights as a justification for discrimination (while as already mentioned they would forget the argument on another issue) state's rights keeps the the government from becoming a dictatorship of the majority. As much as people from Idaho don't want to be ruled by liberals from the East Coast, people from New Hampshire don't want to be ruled by conservatives from Montana.

Though cooperation does need to be vastly improved espiecielly in law enforcement.

And Northern gays can be just as racist and sexist as the rest of us. A gay man in Baltimore I used to live next to could hardly keep himself from spitting on Koreans and Indians.

[Ned]

The North did not secede. The North did not attack. The North defended the Union against Southern aggression against personal of the United States armed forces stationed in the South.

The principle espoused by protagonists of extremist states rights is the very system of Confederacy that preceded the Constitution.

However, I believe a state may secede with the consent of Congress.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by ThePantaloonDog
The Southern states succeeded because of slavery.

The North attacked the Southern states to keep the Union together, not because of slavery.

I find that people from the North like to think that the North was a progressive utopia where every was treated equally. Of course it was far from the truth.

I also find that people from the South begin to froth at the mouth at the mention of the "War of Northern Agression." I find nothing in the Constitution giving states the right to succeed from the Union.

While in many cases white supremecists used state's rights as a justification for discrimination (while as already mentioned they would forget the argument on another issue) state's rights keeps the the government from becoming a dictatorship of the majority. As much as people from Idaho don't want to be ruled by liberals from the East Coast, people from New Hampshire don't want to be ruled by conservatives from Montana.

Though cooperation does need to be vastly improved espiecielly in law enforcement.

And Northern gays can be just as racist and sexist as the rest of us. A gay man in Baltimore I used to live next to could hardly keep himself from spitting on Koreans and Indians.

Point number 1 -- I never said that Northern states were or are, a utopian example of equality.

Point number 2 -- I never said that gays and lesbians are flawless when dealing with other minority groups.

Why are we arguing on something that all of us already find to be common knowledge -- that racism is not exclusive to Southern states?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Why are we arguing on something that all of us already find to be common knowledge -- that racism is not exclusive to Southern states?

Because you tend to assert that it IS exclusive to the South.

[SlowwHand]

Imran, we have a name for what you're doing by arguing with MrFun.
It's kind of uncouth, but the term is "pissing in the wind".

[MrFun]

My assertion was that states' rights arguments were historically used by white Southern leaders as political guerrila tactic to preserve white supremacy.

That does not imply that racism is exclusive to only Southern states.