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  • #256
    How is the future need for decommisioning/refurbishment dealt with?

    Saras: Same in the US, I believe. A sinking fund is set up (by law) for decommissioning/refurbishment, payable over the expected life of the plant. I guess that somewhat offsets the benefits of a low interest rate environment. Don't know if payments are adjusted in an underfunded or overfunded situation.

    but moreso in ongoing maintenance

    Super Sten: I believe that maintenance would go under operating costs. Attached is a graphic for the relative costs per kwh of nuclear power versus others, given a 5% interest rate, 30 year plant life, 70% load.
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    Last edited by DanS; May 29, 2003, 13:36.
    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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    • #257
      Interesting revision upward of Q1 '02 GDP by 0.3 percentage points to 1.9%. Both a good and bad situation to be in, since we're still losing a small number of jobs.

      Hope Sten can start doing the big cha-ching soon!
      I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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      • #258
        I know we need some more plants in California, but from what I hear they aren't being built as fast as they should be, even with the low interest rates.
        Recall Davis!!!

        Why don't we have more of those plants that harness energy from waves?

        Also, I remember sometime ago I read that someone was coming up with a device that could absorb heat and harness the energy through harmonic vibrations... What's up with that?

        I say that everyone needs to keep their hands off Cali right now, as far as our energy crisis is going (like GW said sometime ago). Yeah, there has been a lot of underhanded moves by outside energy suppliers, but there has also been alot of BS happening within our own state that we need to take care of.
        Monkey!!!

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        • #259
          Originally posted by DanS
          Interesting revision upward of Q1 '02 GDP by 0.3 percentage points to 1.9%. Both a good and bad situation to be in, since we're still losing a small number of jobs.

          Hope Sten can start doing the big cha-ching soon!
          Some say that the economy has to grow by 4% to create jobs. Damn, that's a lot.
          I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
          - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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          • #260
            Originally posted by Japher
            I say that everyone needs to keep their hands off Cali right now, as far as our energy crisis is going (like GW said sometime ago). Yeah, there has been a lot of underhanded moves by outside energy suppliers, but there has also been alot of BS happening within our own state that we need to take care of.
            He's just mad because we didn't vote for him.
            I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
            - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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            • #261
              Or that all of the law suits from California are headed to Texas
              Monkey!!!

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              • #262
                hey, Kidicious, I grew up in Fresno... sweet
                Monkey!!!

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                • #263
                  Originally posted by Japher
                  Or that all of the law suits from California are headed to Texas
                  Hehe... true.
                  I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                  - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                  • #264
                    Originally posted by Japher
                    hey, Kidicious, I grew up in Fresno... sweet
                    Cool, everyone gives me crap for my location. Your the first one to appreciate it .
                    I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                    - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                    • #265
                      I was there last weekend. I want to move back one day, maybe up into the hills though.
                      Monkey!!!

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                      • #266
                        Originally posted by Japher
                        I was there last weekend. I want to move back one day, maybe up into the hills though.
                        I like Mariposa.
                        I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                        - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                        • #267
                          Another question that I have regarding the relative attractiveness of some assets in a low interest rate environment...

                          Wouldn't it make sense that adding skyscraper space would be more attractive in a low interest rate environment? The price of land goes up as the interest rates go down, but the price of steel doesn't.
                          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                          • #268
                            Assuming skycrapers are built out of a pure economic rationale. Remember we discussed the economic sensibility of skycrapers a while ago and we couldn't draw any conclusions.
                            In that sense they're like Nuclear power plants IMHO, not just built with a simple cost/benefits calculation in mind, but also out of prestige.
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                            • #269
                              Assuming skycrapers are built with out of a pure economic rationale.

                              True. True. But Sten also made the comment that skyscrapers aren't that economical anymore. So I'm looking to see what would make them more economical.

                              My condo is worth more than the current skyscraper build price that we figured out of $225/ft^2 (real estate inclusive), indicating that it would be more economical to build up, if the zoning regulations permitted it.
                              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                              • #270
                                Here's an article on the relative merits of the Fed v. ECB policies that mentions the Taylor rule. Colon should like that!

                                http://news.ft.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=FT.com/StoryFT/FullStory&c=StoryFT&cid=1054416467380&p=1012571727092


                                Interestingly, Taylor will be cutting his teeth on Iraq's economy. Most of the macroeconomist type work is being done under his office, IIRC.
                                I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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