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  • The American way is explicitly rejected by most Western countries. Why?
    More like explicitly in denial.
    We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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    • Originally posted by Thud
      Call me odd, (don't worry, my friends do), but I prefer the British way of speech.
      You are odd.

      A Louisiana or Tennessee accent beats them all hands down.
      We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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      • Pretty good troll by the way AH.

        6/10

        Trojan horse grenade but pretty obvious when there is a big lump in the birthday cake:

        We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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        • "War On Iraq: Most Americans oppose war with Iraq."

          A full 76% of Americans support military action against Iraq if Saddam is hiding WOMD (which we know he is).
          Last edited by DanS; January 18, 2003, 16:38.
          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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          • Originally posted by DanS
            "War On Iraq: Most Americans oppose war with Iraq."

            A full 76% of Americans support military action against Iraq if Saddam is hiding WOMD (which we know he is).
            Care to share the details with the UN?

            Or have the weapons been found and no-one told me?
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            • A piece on US war protests.

              BBC, News, BBC News, news online, world, uk, international, foreign, british, online, service



              I found this bit amusing:

              The demonstrators, braving a freezing chill despite brilliant sunshine, plan to march on the Washington naval yard and demand the right to inspect US weapons of mass destruction
              One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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              • What is it that makes them so unlike the rest of us?
                *Well, 25% of Americans are fat *

                Seriously. It's because they are hysterically christian.


                The demonstrators, braving a freezing chill despite brilliant sunshine, plan to march on the Washington naval yard and demand the right to inspect US weapons of mass destruction.
                I think the UN should send inspectors to USA. Maybe if that happened, Iraq could be more willing to let them search for it in Iraq.
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                • Originally posted by DinoDoc

                  What color is the sky in your fantasy world?
                  I'm very much a realist. The sky in your fantasy world is very blue though, I'm sure.

                  Let's take a hypothetical situation. Suppose that we were to take an American, between age 30 and 50, at random. What do you think the chances are that that American would have jumped the social ladder. Leave out that their income is a little higher from job promotion or savings. Of course people are going to increase their income as they approach retirement. I can honestly say that I would be willing to give you 10 to 1 odds that they have either remained in the same socio-economic class or gone a step or two down. Now that is realism for you.

                  Yes, there is slightly more social mobility in America than in other countries. Americans do take more risks. What goes along with that is the fact that most of the Americans that take risks lose.

                  My point is social mobility would not be significant even if it were twice what it was in this country. What is significant is that most Americans are delusional about social mobility and they may be more inclined to accept the faults of their leaders because of their delusions.
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                  • Originally posted by DuncanK
                    Here's an attempt to get more on the thread topic. Why is it that Americans seem less bothered than others by the fact that our government does stuff behind our back, not in our interest, but in the interest of some corporation.
                    Because many corporations have a good image in our view. Disney, McDonalds, Wal-Mart, all have friendly, do-no-harm images, and these are some of the largest corporations in America. Even AT&T or Bell have a certain historical and nationalist appeal. Nameless "Telekom" companies that could very well be from Sweden do not, they are a collection of suits, and only judged as such.

                    A full 76% of Americans support military action against Iraq if Saddam is hiding WOMD (which we know he is).
                    I'm sure that this many Europeans would support war if we had a 'smoking gun' on this one.
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                    • Originally posted by Thud


                      Because many corporations have a good image in our view. Disney, McDonalds, Wal-Mart, all have friendly, do-no-harm images, and these are some of the largest corporations in America. Even AT&T or Bell have a certain historical and nationalist appeal. Nameless "Telekom" companies that could very well be from Sweden do not, they are a collection of suits, and only judged as such.
                      Read a few posts before this one. Get meaning from the context.
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                      • This thread is rather long what about start new one?

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                        • Originally posted by Viking Berserk


                          *Well, 25% of Americans are fat *
                          Actually, 66 are either fat or obese
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                          • Originally posted by Ned


                            Not only that, but every kid knows that he can be president of the United States.

                            ... the ability to be president, no matter your background has a lot to do with muting class envy.
                            Unless, of course, that kid is female (granted you did say he), a member of a visible minority, Jewish or any other non-Christian, particularly ugly or a whole host of other reasons.
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                            • Unless, of course, that kid is female (granted you did say he), a member of a visible minority, Jewish or any other non-Christian


                              Why is any of this a barrier? Just because it hasn't happened yet doesn't mean that there is no chance for it. I think we'll see a female president in the not so distant future, for example, and Colin Powell could win if he would run.

                              I agree with you on the ugly thing, however...
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                              • Hey, this thread has 500+!!!
                                To us, it is the BEAST.

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