US blocks cheap drugs agreement

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

the incentive to produce drugs for deadly diseases is diminished, meaning we see less money put in to research on drugs. Has implications on the discovery of drugs for diseases in years to come.

BINGO!

Ignore patents and the next big disease doesn't have a cure because the pharmacutical companies don't want to spend over a billion dollars for something that will be taken away from them.

Considering most drug research is carried out by universities with government funding, I'll take that risk.

[Jaakko]

Originally posted by DaShi


Aren't you in China?

I ain't Urban, but I'd really appreciate it I you explained how one's country of residence affects one's moral stances.

[DaShi]

Sorry, not patient enough.

[Jaakko]

Is that so, you Japanese atrocity denier.

[DaShi]

Blah!

[TCO]

Re: US blocks cheap drugs agreement

Originally posted by Jaakko

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2596751.stm

Can anyone here offer an explanation for US' resistance, apart from them being the pharm. lobby's *****?
Because I can't honestly fathom any other reason for this than plain old greed.

Pharm research is directly driven by expectations of future profits. If you want to give all those drugs to Africans, you should pay the pharma companies for them. But don't expect companies to give stuff away.

Beleive me, every time somebody proposes price controls in the US, bitotech companies go uinder in the US. If you want to limit pharma profits, less money will be plowed into research. It is that simple. Of course if you are an idiot, you won't understand that. Just be a little baby than. Someone who thinks that the world owes them a living.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Considering most drug research is carried out by universities with government funding, I'll take that risk.

Which also get a substantial amount of money from pharmacutical companies which are in partnerships with those universities.

How else do you think Johnson & Johnson and Merck get rights to drugs. That and the fact they spend about $1 billion per drug, success or failure.

[Jaakko]

Why don't you go **** yourself GP. If you want to discuss things, lay off the infantile insults first.

[Hueij]

Hey, it's easy. If they can't pay then let them die. Patents are holy, companies spent billions in developing a cure. They have every right to make a fair profit, so bad luck for anyone that can't pay for it...

They shouldn't have contracked HIV in the first place...

[Imran Siddiqui]

Hey, it's easy. If they can't pay then let them die. Patents are holy, companies spent billions in developing a cure. They have every right to make a fair profit, so bad luck for anyone that can't pay for it...

Exactly .

What, you thought I was going to contradict you?

I'd rather save billions and billions over 100s of years than just save a billion at the present.

[TCO]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

Considering most drug research is carried out by universities with government funding, I'll take that risk.

Which also get a substantial amount of money from pharmacutical companies which are in partnerships with those universities.

How else do you think Johnson & Johnson and Merck get rights to drugs. That and the fact they spend about $1 billion per drug, success or failure.

Universities don't do clinicals. They do basic research. Look at Europe with state-funded research. Do you think that is what NDA's? HA!

Take away the incentives and people won't invest in biotechs and such. I've seen it happen.

[TCO]

Originally posted by Jaakko
Why don't you go **** yourself GP. If you want to discuss things, lay off the infantile insults first.

I've worked as an engineering and management consultant for this industry. You are? Let's see. A Cive player. Great knowledge base.

[Jaakko]

It was the insult that was the issue, not your comments, which I thought had merit.

You call me an idiot, a baby and a parasite in an off-handed way, out of the blue, and you think you're debating rationally?

[Solly]

Which tech would you rather research in Civ? One that was immediately given to every other player for free, or one you could keep and utilise?

[TCO]

Originally posted by Jaakko
It was the insult that was the issue, not your comments, which I thought had merit.

You call me an idiot, a baby and a parasite in an off-handed way, out of the blue, and you think you're debating rationally?

The adhominem has a real power to it. Especially if delivered from a sufficiently haughty demeanor. Oh...for the old days when I used to torture Stew.