Dum-Dems: SUV = Terror.....?!?!?!?!

[Arrian]

I'd prefer that we spend our time & effort working out alternative fuels. I'm not a big fan of SUVs (I drive a relatively fuel efficient Honda Accord - and if they had put the hybrid technology in the Accord I would have bought it), but there are lots of uses of oil one could pick on.

I agree dependence on oil is bad thing (for a number of different reasons), so let's work on an alternative. Hell, if the oil companies are so scared of what would happen if a viable alternative hit the market, couldn't the government make it worth their while to work with the auto companies to develop it, and then share in the profits?

-Arrian

[Skyjack666]

Originally posted by Sava


Skyjack666, methinks, is a DL. And probably a Rush Limbaugh listener

Oh, Sava? And how then would you know?? I listen to all sides Con and Lib. The Libs right now seem 'less good'. I go through phases; sometimes I hate the Cons more.

Actually, I hate Rush Limpdog. The religious right can stop their moral high-ground B.S.

I hate both sides equally. We need more options politically.

I still think the whiney left is waaaay more dangerous, though. They really use the scare tactics too much. The left isn't all bad but they've gotta stop the 'dumbing down' stuff. They really appear to want everyone to be dependent (ultimately on them).

[Boris Godunov]

What did these ads have to do with liberals? It was car companies who ran them. Are car companies known to be hotbeds of liberalism?

You're an idjit, as che would say.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Hey if people want to drive SUV's I say let 'em. They pay for it, and they make that choice (not to mention that all GM SUVs will have a hybrid model as well in the near future). I'd personally drive a hybred SUV, because paying for gas every week would suck .

But it's a hilarious retort to drugs=terrorism .

[Skyjack666]

Originally posted by Sava
Now that you guys mention stupid 4ss SUV drivers in the snow.... I used to deliver pizzas in Naperville (SW Chicago suburb) and every snow there would be countless SUV's in the ditches from people who think that their SUV gives them a ticket to drive like an idiot in the snow.

Yes, Sava this is sooo funny. SUV drivers don't realize that 4-wheel drive gives you more TRACTION, not more STOPPING power. I love to watch them skid through an intersection, crash, and then get out and scratch their head like, "but this is a $60,000 SUV...why?".

[Jac de Molay]

The link between SUV's and terror is tenuous at best, especially when you consider oil is in practically EVERYTHING we use.

There's still a lot of reasons to hate them, though. They've been skirting various safety and mileage requirements for years, thanks to corporate lobbying and such.

Their safety record is atrocious too. Anyone who needs a truck the size of a Sherman Tank to go to Starbucks and back.....

[Ubergeek]

Sorry, Skyjack, but I'm not following you. Why is pushing for people to drive more fuel-efficient cars "wanting people to be dependent (ultimately on them)"?

[Boris Godunov]

He doesn't know, he's just frothing at the mouth and tossing out meaningless ad hominems that don't make any logical sense.

[Cyclotron]

Well, the ads don't say that only SUVs fund terror. So it's really a question of priorities. I live in a county known for rich people that drive to Starbucks in their Urban Assault Vehicles (Stripes reference), and it bugs me quite a bit. True, plastics also fund terror I guess, but the point is that for most SUVs are a useless waste (with a nod to rah for his appropriate exception to this). If we need the oil, fine, but we should be cutting down on such a waste of resources.

[rah]

Been away for awhile, and it looks like it's been fun.

A few points.
My wife (prior to her SUV) had little efficient honda. All of them were splattered on the road in winter accidents. (none her fault, but she might have avoided one of them in a four wheel drive car) SO the safety aspect was big.

Both of us laugh at those SUV's in ditches, we are well aware of the limitations of our vehicles and aren't MORONS. And drive accordingly and avoided ditches

Neither of our SUV's are the monster ones, so our gas milage isn't THAT bad.
One Honda Passport and One Cherokee sport.

One of the main aspects of spending more on a smaller house was to be near our jobs so we would help conserve fuel. (My car just turned 7 years old and I have barely 50K miles on it.) My neighbor that commutes daily into the city racks up 30K a year on his car. I don't care what his MPG is, he's using more gas than my wife and I together.

I haul a lot of stuff around for house projects that wouldn't fit in a smaller car. Try stuffing a 8x4 piece of drywall in a Civic

And yes, I do realize that most of the comments were not intended for EVERY SUV driver, but I like to respond to people if I think there's even a hint of generalizing.

AND finally, yes, monster SUV's have really gone over the top and I would guess that only about 5% of the people that buy them, actually need them.

RAH

[Grrr]

Re: Dum-Dems: SUV = Terror.....?!?!?!?!

Originally posted by Skyjack666
- in some regions, turning on a light switch = terror
(oil-burning for electricity)

Also oil-burning to refine raw materials for use in nuclear power plants.

[Kingof the Apes]

It's funny to see that almost every aspect of my life is influenced by politics. I hope no one tries to tell me what to eat tonight.

[Cyclotron]

beef, it's what's for dinner.

[chequita guevara]

If you have an SUV older than a few years ago, it's actually a more dangerous vehical than a car. Despite engineer warnings, car companies refused to make SUVs wider and lower to the ground. Result: SUVs have a very high rate of rollover for rather minor traffic accidents and turns. Since they don't have the same safty requirements, the cabins collapse during rollover. In other words, if you get hit on the side while in an older SUV, you stand a greater chance of being killed than if you were in a smaller vehical. Ironically, SUVs are too dangerous to use in off-road driving, their ostensible purpose. Newer SUVs are more balanced, and won't tip over so easily.

My biggest complaint about SUVs is that they make the road more dangerous for everyone else. SUVs are exceedingly dangerous to smaller cars and they reduce road visibility for anyone in cars. It's not right that SUV owners increase their own safety at the expense of others.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Kingof the Apes


It's funny to see that almost every aspect of my life is influenced by politics. I hope no one tries to tell me what to eat tonight.

That's because life is politics and politics is about life. What I find funny is people who think politics has nothing o do with them.