Sure? I thought Lee was a lousy strategist. He should have never attacked Gettysburg.
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(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
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Wasn't Gettysburg the battle where Lee apologized to his soldiers but they refused to let him? I think he realized that he overextended himself, but you are right, he did overextend himself there.
The Southern commanders were so much better at every single level, they just didn't have the firepower and logistics to back it up.We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln
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Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
By definition, if you are outnumbered (as at Chacellorsville, for one example) and you then go on the offensive and drive the enemy off the battlefield, you are going to incur higher casualties. When the alternative is a high cost attack, or a retreat into an inevitably fatal siege, any general worth his salt will attack. The question is would Grant, faced with Lee's sitation and resources at Chancellorsville, have exceeded Lee's performance?(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
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By definition, a great general is somebody who dictates terms to his enemy, not the other way around.
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Originally posted by Ted Striker
Wasn't Gettysburg the battle where Lee apologized to his soldiers but they refused to let him? I think he realized that he overextended himself, but you are right, he did overextend himself there.
Originally posted by Ted Striker
The Southern commanders were so much better at every single level, they just didn't have the firepower and logistics to back it up.(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
(='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
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i read about this guy. It's not "Yankee Propoganda" if he's a southerner...I think he lives somewhere near Myrtle Beach, and people down there HATE HIM."Chegitz, still angry about the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991?
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Originally posted by David Floyd
So a great general commanding a platoon will end up dictating terms to a piss poor general commanding a division?
Come on
The point is a great general will choose the time and place of engagements while avoiding the ones forced on him by his enemies.(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
(='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
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When was the last time you found a general commanding a platoon?Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/DaveDaDouche
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" If that's what you need to get you through the night baby, have at it."
Ahhh..... I knew this would work great for a low effort troll thread the moment I saw the CNN article.
"People can argue against Pickett's charge, but regardless of whether one thinks it necessary or not, it still put enough of a sting on Meade that he was lackadaisical in pursuing the ANV when it could have and should have been trapped against floodwaters of the Potomac and destroyed."
Was that because of Pickett's charge though or because of a bad decision by Gen. Meade? The South wasn't exactly in the best position in terms of manpower and so losing those forces had to a be tough sting to the South.
"So a great general commanding a platoon will end up dictating terms to a piss poor general commanding a division?"
Maybe but was that the case in the South vs the North. Logistical problems aside, the South still had a real army that had been doing quite well. Grant took control of forces that had seen a good deal of defeat and won the war with them. Lee had his chances to go up against some of the dumbest generals in American history and still couldn't put together a victory.
In any case, Grant is rightly remembered as an American hero for defeating the Slaveocracy of the South, Lee is rightly remembered as a villain because of his defense of the Southern Slavocracy."I'm moving to the Left" - Lancer
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Lee had his chances to go up against some of the dumbest generals in American history and still couldn't put together a victory.Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/DaveDaDouche
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Originally posted by David Floyd
The problem was one of logistics, industry, that sort of thing - you touched on that in the sentence preceding that one. Are you telling me that if the South had as much industrial power as the North, and the same access to hard currency, the world trade market, munitions, food, etc., that they would have still lost?"I'm moving to the Left" - Lancer
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Originally posted by David Floyd
OK, smartass, how about a brigade against an army? Both are generally commanded by generals, yet the brigade is not going to defeat the army - it can run away, but it isn't going to win on the basis of superior leadership alone.
If you can't swamp the other side all at once, chew it up bit by bit.(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
(='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
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Originally posted by Shi Huangdi In any case, Grant is rightly remembered as an American hero for defeating the Slaveocracy of the South, Lee is rightly remembered as a villain because of his defense of the Southern Slavocracy.
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