Another question for Libertarians

[Graag]

One day Bill Gates' tea is spiked with LSD, he decides to buy an island and set up the perfect Libertarian state, i.e. no tax, no law, no government, no nothing. Everyone is free to come and go as they like, nothing is forbidden.

Do you move there?

And isn't that anarchy anyway?

[Dinner]

Wait until a pyscho goes nuts and starts shooting people. Guns are legal but there are no cops around because every good libertarian knows cops=police state.

After that maybe people will get their heads out of the clouds and come back to earth.

[chequita guevara]

It depends on the libertarian you ask. Some are anarchists, some minimal statists.

[David Floyd]

the perfect Libertarian state, i.e. no tax, no law, no government, no nothing.

Libertarians aren't anarchists.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by David Floyd
Libertarians aren't anarchists.

Some are. I know quite a few who styled themselves as anarchists for capitalism.

[Graag]

Libertarians aren't anarchists.

What's the difference?

[monkspider]

Originally posted by Graag


What's the difference?

I've been wondering along these lines as well.

[David Floyd]

The difference is that in a Libertarian system you may not violate the rights of another.

[orange]

but people inevitably will. What happens to them if they do?

[Graag]

Originally posted by David Floyd
The difference is that in a Libertarian system you may not violate the rights of another.

Oh, ok then, the only thing forbidden is that you may not directly cause harm to another person.

Do you move there?

[chequita guevara]

Floyd's being sectarian. Do not take his word for it.

[Ned]

Re: Another question for Libertarians

Originally posted by Graag
One day Bill Gates' tea is spiked with LSD, he decides to buy an island and set up the perfect Libertarian state, i.e. no tax, no law, no government, no nothing. Everyone is free to come and go as they like, nothing is forbidden.

Do you move there?

And isn't that anarchy anyway?

The question I have is does he allow the gun totin' crack whore to babysit his kids for a week. After all, guns drugs and prostitution are legal and don't harm anyone.

[David Floyd]

The question I have is does he allow the gun totin' crack whore to babysit his kids for a week.

There's a difference between bad influences and rights violations. It's stupid to use drugs, therefore you probably don't want your kids to have heavy exposure to them, but on the other hand, if your kid sees a drug, his rights haven't been violated. That makes it a parenting question, not one for government.

[Rex Little]

Taking the thread question at face value: it depends on what's available on the island in terms of jobs, recreation, supplies, etc. Also what Gates is charging to rent or buy a home. A libertarian government is a big plus, but it's not the only ingredient of a quality life. But if everything else was anywhere near equal to where I live now, I'd be on that island as soon as I could persuade my wife.

And it's not anarchy if there are rules against rights violations and the means to enforce them, which is implied by Graag's third post.

[Graag]

Rex, thankyou for answer number 1!

Rather than actually describe the theoretical conditions on the island, I'm more inaarested in whether libertarians would actually move themselves (and families) to such a state.

Though to be honest the more I think about the question it is a bit crap.

What I'm getting at is would people who argue for this style of government actually feel comfortable living in it.