Russia Kicks Out US Peace Corps!

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

Also, I will say this ONE MORE TIME: MANY OF THE ACTIONS OF THE SOVIET UNION WERE UNJUSTIFIABLE. They were EVIL. PARANOID.

So how can you join a club when you are already the premier members .

It is called a JOKE Imran. Don't act stupid.

Now, are you going to admit that your state is acting a bit paranoid, or will you continue to attempt to justify its actions?

[Imran Siddiqui]

The Soviet Union was a paranoid state. I think thats more than obvious. I'm not denying it nor trying to justify its actions

Russia is just as paranoid. Kicking out a group that only helps people in growing crops or building houses.

At least other countries had reasons for looking closely at certain groups. The Russians had to make up an excuse, like they spy on us!

[Imran Siddiqui]

Now, are you going to admit that your state is acting a bit paranoid, or will you continue to attempt to justify its actions?

A 'BIT'. Perhaps. But, like it is said, 'it isn't paranoia when they really are out to get you'

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

Now, are you going to admit that your state is acting a bit paranoid, or will you continue to attempt to justify its actions?

A 'BIT'. Perhaps. But, like it is said, 'it isn't paranoia when they really are out to get you'

Thats PARANOIA! When you believe everything is out to get you (so you must attack it first!). It's just that simple.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Thats PARANOIA! When you believe everything is out to get you (so you must attack it first!).

Um NO! If they actually are out to get you, then you aren't being paranoid, you are being smart and perceptive!

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

Thats PARANOIA! When you believe everything is out to get you (so you must attack it first!).

Um NO! If they actually are out to get you, then you aren't being paranoid, you are being smart and perceptive!

Um YEAH! Do you think a person suffering from paranoia is actually faking the entire thing? NO! They believe SOMETHING is out to get them! They believe that they're supported by FACT!

Come on Imran, this is painfully obvious...A paranoid persno believes that their paranoia is justified and true and that theyre being "smart and perceptive!". They make excuses. It's common knowledge and in fact has become a steriotype in American society.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Are you being purposefully stupid or is this really how you believe?

IF someone is REALLY, ACTUALLY out to get them, then it isn't paranoia to think that person is out to get you!!!!!

If someone is REALLY being chased by a madman and he sees the madman chasing him and following him, then he isn't being paranoid... because someone REALLY is chasing him!

How the HELL can you called paranoid if that thing is actually happening to you? I'd think the information released after the Cold War about the hundreds of spies in the US government (State and Defense mostly), would indicate that US fears about Communist spies in the government was NOT paranoia but TRUTH!

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Are you being purposefully stupid or is this really how you believe?

IF someone is REALLY, ACTUALLY out to get them, then it isn't paranoia to think that person is out to get you!!!!!

If someone is REALLY being chased by a madman and he sees the madman chasing him and following him, then he isn't being paranoid... because someone REALLY is chasing him!

Yes, then its justified. But being a country believeing EVERYONE is out to get you so you have to kill them first and having a madman running at you is quite different.

But hey, to begin pre-emptively striking countries because they "may become a threat" is like killing your mother because "she may become a threat". It's paranoid. You have no justification at all.

Anyway, I just logged onto Poly to see what was going on. I have to go, but were not finished here yet

[Imran Siddiqui]

But being a country believeing EVERYONE is out to get you so you have to kill them first

And which country in the history of the world believed this? Just about every country either A) had an ally or B) attacked someone and suprised them, so no one could think everyone was out to get them.

But hey, to begin pre-emptively striking countries because they "may become a threat" is like killing your mother because "she may become a threat". It's paranoid. You have no justification at all.

How is that paranoia? It is not irrational to think certain countries may become a threat. It is like killing someone that hates you more than anything and is trying to get a machine gun! It isn't paranoid, it is very rational, because you know that that person wants to shoot you!

I cannot see how that is paranoia at all! When Israel bombed Iraqi nuclear reactors in 1980s, they weren't being paranoid. They knew Iraq would threaten Israel with nuclear weapons in the future. That isn't paranoia, that's called a preventive strike, and in many circumstances it is smart.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
A bunch of paranoid ninnies is what I'm seeing.

The Russians, starting with Putin, sure have a screw loose, I tell you!

It's not paranoia if the CIA is everywhere. Remember those weapons inspectors?

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

But being a country believeing EVERYONE is out to get you so you have to kill them first

And which country in the history of the world believed this

Alright, MOSTLY everyone

How is that paranoia? It is not irrational to think certain countries may become a threat. It is like killing someone that hates you more than anything and is trying to get a machine gun! It isn't paranoid, it is very rational, because you know that that person wants to shoot you!

But what if you know they WONT? The US' latest obsession, Iraq, has VERY little chance of attacking the US other thant he airplanes patrolling the No-Fly Zone. In fact, many US allies already have the gun and pulling the trigger

in many circumstances it is smart.

Well, not in the one I'm thinking of

[Imran Siddiqui]

The US' latest obsession, Iraq, has VERY little chance of attacking the US other thant he airplanes patrolling the No-Fly Zone.

Why do you think we are attacking Iraq because they are going to attack us?

We are attacking Iraq because if they get nukes, they can do whatever they please in the ME. Take over Kuwait again? Sure... they have nukes.

[Shi Huangdi]

"COMMUNSIM IS GONNA TAKE OVER THE ENTIRE WORLD!!!!! WE MUST FUND TERRORISTS!"

We weren't funding terrorists. We were funding and training guerilla fighters, some of whom later became terrrorists.

"We are attacking Iraq because if they get nukes, they can do whatever they please in the ME. Take over Kuwait again? Sure... they have nukes."

Imran is correct. There is evidence is Iraq is trying to get nukes, and if it does they will be able to run rampant and undermine our power. Having a hostile power with nukes nessecarily undermines your power in a region. Not paranoia, smart foreign policy.

BY the way Tassadar, get those posts back yet?

[DinoDoc]

But being a country believeing EVERYONE is out to get you...

You just described the essence of the security delima, IIRC.

[Heresson]

This is a very old info. As long as I can remember, it was discussed here months or over a year ago. It was before I started posting Russian threads, so it was some time ago.