Arabs attack Grozny

[Az]

oh, so you don't understand.

the vast majority of the DP condemned are guilty. the 'witches' were not.

[Ned]

Originally posted by DanielXY


No I think the US will wait for the UN to vote. And Bushs reaction will be like:
a) If the result is yes - excellent
b) If the result is no - hm, bad luck, too bad ... lets atack anyways

If this is propaganda it is spread by Bush himself

To some extent you are right about this - but Bush has taken the stance that Saddam has WoMD and that he is hiding them. If he is right on this, I believe he will prove it to the SC. If he has no conclusive proof, I think the inspection will continue so long as Iraq continues to cooperate 100%. I can hardly imagine Bush convincing anyone, let alone Congress or the American people, to go to war with no proof of WoMD and no demostration that Saddam in obstructing the inspections.

[Ned]

Originally posted by Azazel
oh, so you don't understand.

the vast majority of the DP condemned are guilty. the 'witches' were not.

Azazel, I turned against the death penalty when OJ walked free. I formed the conclusion that we do not have equal justice in the US - the rich can always beat the rap with good lawyers. It is therefore unjust to execute the average citizen who cannot afford the justice of the rich.

I sound like a bleading heart liberal here; but this is just one Republican's opinion.

[Az]

I find that the DP is being implemented waay too often. But the option must exist.

[Ned]

Originally posted by Azazel
I find that the DP is being implemented waay too often. But the option must exist.

Even guys that have tried to assassinate Ford and Reagan, and who did assassinate Bobby Kennedy, are in prison.

For the especially dangerous, there is always the Hannibal Lector cage. Besides, breaking rocks while being constantly swarmed by mosquitos in the remote Alaskan wilderness seems like better punishment than a simple injection to put one quietly to sleep. Perhaps if Israel asks, we will share Alaska.

[Dinner]

Why would they need it? They've got the Negev. Still I guess there is nothing like knowing your 2000 miles from the nearest town, with subzero temperatures, to dampen a prisioners desires for escape. Kind of like our own mini version of Siberia.

[Dinner]

Didn't the Brits send German POWs to the Northwest territories during WW2? Talk about a place where escape is meaningless.

[Heresson]

Originally posted by Azazel
oh, so you don't understand.

the vast majority of the DP condemned are guilty. the 'witches' were not.

Who cares? it's not about the guilt, it's about what we do with this guilt. Killing a person is never moral.

[Az]

so if someone will try to kill you you won't kill him? OK....

[Heresson]

I will. But that won't claim it was very moral.

[Az]

So if it wasn't moral, it was wrong, right?

[Ned]

I think in the self defense situation, one tries to defend oneself. One does not try to kill the other person. Once you get the upper hand, for example, you have no right to deliberately execute the person who attacked you.

[Az]

I'd say that once you're safe yourself, you are not justified in killing the attacker. But during a struggle, you can kill him.

[Heresson]

If someone sits in a jail, He can't kill You...

[Az]

true, but if someone wouldn't face the risk of dying if he tried to kill someone, the odds of him killing another person would rise.