Britain Has Too Many Phony Immigrants

[Solly]

The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees says Britain has more than its fair share of asylum seekers, given the size of the population.

Ruud Lubbers says more refugees tend to target the UK because of its international reputation.

But he has also urged the British Government to work with other European countries towards a multi-lateral approach to solving the problem

What I've been arguing all along.

But of course liberals think we should invite the whole of the Middle East to live here.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2608479.stm

[red_jon]

Due to our declining population western countries will be crying out for immigrants in 15-20 years time. May as well get ahead now.

Besides, why would you agree with that statement? You'd sooner have a 3rd World War than cooperate with other European countries.

[Solly]

Well then we'll accept the immigrants in 15-20 years time, based on their skills rather than on the risks they've taken and money they've spent to get here. You do realise that it's only relatively rich immigrants who manage to escape - by supporting refugees, you're supporting the rich, and not giving a damn about the poor who are left behind. You are supporting inequality.

And I'd recommend co-operation with certain European countries, but not at all.

[red_jon]

Originally posted by Boddington's
Well then we'll accept the immigrants in 15-20 years time, based on their skills rather than on the risks they've taken and money they've spent to get here. You do realise that it's only relatively rich immigrants who manage to escape - by supporting refugees, you're supporting the rich, and not giving a damn about the poor who are left behind. You are supporting inequality.

And I'd recommend co-operation with certain European countries, but not at all.

I think we should help those who are fleein their countries as they're being persecuted. Those who are in danger should be helped regardless of their economic status. I wouldn't leave a man to die because he is rich!

Have you thought that maybe we have more asylum seekers because we had such a huge empire so our country is going to be more well-known to our ex-colonies?

[Solly]

What about the poor would-be refugees who are left behind?

[Graag]

Its a mystery why the EU doesn't simply divide allocation of asylum seekers between it's members according to population (or GDP or whatever).

Actually it isn't a mystery, the reason is because the EU is a bizarre sham that purports to aim for a united europe, but in fact exists to give lots of money to french farmers and corrupt politicians.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Keep reading that article, Spink. You'll find out that near the bottom it says that the UK population is actually decreasing due to outwards migration.

[Solly]

So? We are an overcrowded little island, it's probably good that our population reduces, and it's up to other countries if they want to accept us. The British aren't forcing and bribing their way into other countries, that's for sure.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Incidentally, how does one become a "phony immigrant"?

Pretend to move to another country, but just hide in your bedroom instead?

Of course, Spink could have meant that Britain has "too many phony asylum seekers", but if he did, that means his link doesn't actually mention that any point.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Originally posted by Boddington's
So? We are an overcrowded little island, it's probably good that our population reduces, and it's up to other countries if they want to accept us. The British aren't forcing and bribing their way into other countries, that's for sure.

Go back to your most elementary economics textbooks and look up what happens when you have a declining and ageing population. You're on the wrong course.

[The Viceroy]

Lazarus has hit the nail on the head, we need immigrants .. if only we had the vision of the US back at the start of the 1900's. If we allow immigrants to settle, and make them legal, we stop them getting sucked into organised crime, we have the chance to educate them . .todays immigrants are tomorrows citizens. Sure, people are people, and there will be good and bad (of which the newspapers will only report on the bad), but the UK needs to stop the rot now ..

I say build several more cities, and take more immigrants in ! because as it stands, the housing situation in the UK is terrible .. we need more cities.

[Urban Ranger]

Whine Night hosted by Boddie.

[Jaakko]

Here, I brought some cheese.

[Solly]

Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp


Go back to your most elementary economics textbooks and look up what happens when you have a declining and ageing population. You're on the wrong course.

I know full well what is forecast to happen, but where we are disagreeing is on what to do about it.

I find it somewhat ironic that it is those who on surface level seem to most care about developing nations and their citizens are the very same people that are happy to accept people of working age from those countries.

Perhaps the greatest gift we can offer developing countries is to allow them to keep their talent, by restricting immigration.

[Tolls]

"Perhaps the greatest gift we can offer developing countries is to allow them to keep their talent, by restricting immigration."

I am assuming we are talking about asylum seekers here, rather than economic migrants, in which case in many countries that are the source of refugees it is the intellectuals (read, teachers, doctors, scientists, artists etc) that are often the target of whatever oppressive regime they are fleeing from. So your idea of telling them to stay where they are is likely only to get them killed.

The middle classes are often the target of these regimes...