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    Now aint this fun...

    and IIRC China was responsible for arming Pakistan. When are we going after them

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    Pakistani scientist 'offered Saddam nuclear designs'
    From James Bone in New York



    A PAKISTANI scientist approached Iraq soon after the 1990 invasion of Kuwait to offer nuclear weapon designs and help in procuring bomb components, according to a document found by United Nations weapons inspectors.
    The revelation, which provoked an inconclusive inquiry by inspectors, has raised new concerns about Pakistan’s role in the proliferation of nuclear technology. It follows allegations that Pakistan helped North Korea to develop a nuclear bomb and that Pakistani nuclear scientists met Osama bin Laden and the Taleban leader, Mullah Muhammad Omar, in Afghanistan.

    The offer by the Pakistani scientist, found in Iraqi archives, was made in October 1990 as a US-led coalition prepared to repel the August invasion of Kuwait. Iraq had already embarked on a crash programme to develop a nuclear bomb, but told the UN it had not pursued the scientist’s offer — a claim UN investigators are inclined to believe. The document revealing the contact between the scientist and Iraq is referred to twice in the Iraqi declaration of its nuclear capability, which The Times has obtained.

    The file first came to the attention of UN weapons inspectors after the 1995 defection of President Saddam Hussein’s son-in-law, General Hussein Kamel, who was in charge of Iraq’s secret weapons programmes. After he defected to Jordan, Iraqi officials led UN inspectors to a cache of 1.5 million pages of documents hidden in packing crates at General Kamel’s chicken farm in Iraq, the Haider House Farm, in an apparent effort to get rid of incriminating evidence that they assumed he would provide to Western intelligence.

    Among them was a file of correspondence between Iraq’s Mukhabarat secret service and Department 3000 of the Iraqi Atomic Energy Commission (IAEC), a secret Iraqi nuclear programme that was codenamed Petro-Chemical 3.

    “Included was a few pages relating to an approach made by a foreign national who offered assistance, for financial reward, in nuclear weapon design and in the procurement of material that may be required,” Iraq’s declaration says. “The Iraqi team pointed out to the International Atomic Energy Agency Action Team (IAEA AT) that no external assistance was received by the former Iraqi nuclear programme, other than that already declared to the (team) and is documented.”

    A source familiar with the case said that the document identified the scientist as a Pakistani. The handwritten paper seems to be a record of a meeting between him and an Iraqi contact. “He made the unsolicited offer to a contact of the Mukhabarat procurement network and there was a communication between the Mukhabarat and Department 3000, where IAEC procurement was handled,” the source said.

    The document triggered an investigation by UN nuclear inspectors, who approached Pakistan. Islamabad told them it could not identify the scientist, but some UN Security Council diplomats suspect that Pakistan does know who it is. Inspectors thought that the matter was important enough to brief the five permanent members of the Security Council — Britain, China, France, Russia and the United States — on their 1997 inquiry. Evidence of contact between a Pakistani scientist and Iraq will only fuel fears that Pakistan is willing to share its technology with so-called “rogue nations”. The US suspects Pakistan of having supplied North Korea with gas centrifuge technology to make weapons-grade uranium for its nuclear bomb in 1997/98.




    Even though Paki might be bored...
    Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
    GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"

  • #2
    Oh, come on, noone interested to comment on Pakistan willing to share it's nuclear technology with Iraq and North Korea?

    Who says that they haven't shared it with Iran or some other unfriendly regime.
    Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
    GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"

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    • #3
      Pakistan's our Valued Ally, and a Beacon of Freedom and Democracy. They'd never do anything that could come back to hurt us.

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      • #4
        Ok, so after we get Iraq, N. Korea, Iran, Saudi Arabia, we go after... Pakistan.
        In da butt.
        "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Andrew1999
          Pakistan's our Valued Ally, and a Beacon of Freedom and Democracy. They'd never do anything that could come back to hurt us.
          You don't need to beacon of freedom when your an ally. No need for sarcasm when cold hard reality will do.
          Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Pekka
            Ok, so after we get Iraq, N. Korea, Iran, Saudi Arabia, we go after... Pakistan.
            You forgot Syria, Lybia and Sudan.
            "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by OneFootInTheGrave

              Who says that they haven't shared it with Iran or some other unfriendly regime.
              Who says they need to when Russia already is.
              "I read a book twice as fast as anybody else. First, I read the beginning, and then I read the ending, and then I start in the middle and read toward whatever end I like best." - Gracie Allen

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              • #8
                Pakistan is much more of a threat to us (and rest of the world) than Saddam ever will be. Furthermore, it's positioned directly opposite to US interests in the region, seeing as how the now fundy provinces on the Afghan border are no doubt harboring members of al-Qaeda. With friends like these...
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                • #9
                  Eli, I did.. thanks for correcting.
                  In da butt.
                  "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                  THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
                  "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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                  • #10
                    Ramo, I agree.. and who leads Pakistan? Dictator.

                    edit: Who proved that is ready and able to use nukes for real.
                    In da butt.
                    "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                    THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
                    "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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                    • #11
                      We attack where there is oil!!
                      -Bush
                      Weaseling out of things is what separates us from the animals....except the weasel -Homer
                      Who's up for some scroungin'? -Homer

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                      • #12
                        *gasp*

                        American scientists offered the USSR military secrets (and yes, they did). Let's go after... ourselves!
                        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                        • #13
                          But I live here.
                          Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                          • #14
                            That's what we want you to think.
                            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                            • #15
                              **shrug** All this does is strengthen the case for designing a capable (and layered) anti-missile defense program. Proliferation appears to the craze, no matter what the diplomats do. Of course, any defense system should be a *part* of the overall strategy ... IOW, don't rule out terrorists using suitcase nukes or putting a bomb aboard a ship sitting in one of our port cities.

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