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  • #76
    Originally posted by Ned


    Compositions may be written with a functional intent, but their language may be so inspiring as to change a culture, I would argue that all of these works are landmarks both functionally and as literature.
    True... But the Gettysburg address seems more weighty than the Declararion of Independence in terms of culture.
    II. 193 And fight them until there is no more tumult and oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah; but if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression.

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    • #77
      Good to see someone mentioned Cervantes "Don Quichote de la Mancha" . Hilarious and tragic at the same time.
      You have to read it to understand why it belongs in the great top10 of literary fiction.

      P.S
      Every American seems to put George Orwells "1984" somewhere on their list. Is it required (obligatory) on the school bookreading lists there?
      Skeptics should forego any thought of convincing the unconvinced that we hold the torch of truth illuminating the darkness. A more modest, realistic, and achievable goal is to encourage the idea that one may be mistaken. Doubt is humbling and constructive; it leads to rational thought in weighing alternatives and fully reexamining options, and it opens unlimited vistas.

      Elie A. Shneour Skeptical Inquirer

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      • #78
        Originally posted by CapTVK
        Every American seems to put George Orwells "1984" somewhere on their list. Is it required (obligatory) on the school bookreading lists there?
        It was on a list for me from which I had to select some of the books to read.

        I think 1984 is especially appealing to Americans because it explains how governments can use word games (e.g. the Ministry of Peace; "War is Peace") to play mind games with the citizenry...something our beloved government has been doing since at least World War II (e.g. the Department of Defense, "the light at the end of the tunnel," "the Patriot Act").

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Ned
          Illiad by Homer
          History of the Peloponnesian War by Thucydides.
          Anabasis by Xenophon
          Gallic Wars by Caesar
          The Aneid by Virgil
          Hamlet by Shakespeare
          Gulliver's Travels by Jonathan Swift
          David Copperfied by Charles Dickens
          Declaration of Independence by Thomas Jefferson
          War and in Peace by Tolstoy
          The Lord of the Rings by J.R.R. Tolkien
          For Whom the Bell Tolls by Ernest Hemingway
          We do not agree about politics but I truly like your list of your favourite books!
          I also agree with you that literature doesn't have to be fiction; both the Ancients and the Chinese considered History one of the most respectable genres.
          My all-time favourite book is 'The Iliad'.

          Merry Christmas!

          S.Kroeze
          Jews have the Torah, Zionists have a State

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          • #80
            In response to something someone above said, Salinger most definitely still is writing. He became a recluse after Franny and Zooey got such terrible critical reviews, though the book is making something of a comeback these days. By all indications, though, he is still writing and we may see a good deal of work by him posthumously.

            As for my list...

            1.) The Source by James Michener. My all time favorite book.
            2.) Catch-22 by Joseph Heller.
            3.) All Quiet on the Western Front by Erich Maria Remarque
            4.) The Power and the Glory by Graham Greene. I'm surprised no one has mentioned him, yet. He wrote many powerful books.
            5.) A Tale of Two Cities by Charles Dickens. I fail to see how anyone can call Dickens wholly depressing after reading this or A Christmas Carol.
            6.) 1984 by George Orwell
            7.) MacBeth by William Shakespeare, though all of the plays of his that I've read are exemplary. This one still tops the list for me.
            8.) Lord of the Rings Trilogy by J.R.R. Tolkien. Naturally.
            9.) Night/Dawn/Day by Elie Wiesel. If you get a chance to read all three, do. They are very good.
            10.) Lord of the Flies by William Golding.
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            • #81
              Some of you people have a strange concept of what constitutes "fiction."
              Tutto nel mondo è burla

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              • #82
                Originally posted by S. Kroeze


                We do not agree about politics but I truly like your list of your favourite books!
                I also agree with you that literature doesn't have to be fiction; both the Ancients and the Chinese considered History one of the most respectable genres.
                My all-time favourite book is 'The Iliad'.

                Well, S. Kroeze, maybe this is a start toward understanding each other.

                Merry Christmas to you as well.

                Ned

                Merry Christmas!

                S.Kroeze
                Well, S. Kroeze, maybe this is a start toward understanding each other.

                Merry Christmas to you as well.

                Ned

                Merry Christmas!
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                • #83
                  Atlas Shrugged, and The Gulag Archipelligo

                  they should be added.
                  Read Blessed be the Peacemakers | Read Political Freedom | Read Pax Germania: A Story of Redemption | Read Unrelated Matters | Read Stains of Blood and Ash | Read Ripper: A Glimpse into the Life of Gen. Jack Sterling | Read Deutschland Erwachte! | Read The Best Friend | Read A Mothers Day Poem | Read Deliver us From Evil | Read The Promised Land

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                  • #84
                    Hamlet- Shakespeare
                    Lord of the Rings- J.R.R. Tolkein
                    2001: a Space Odessey- Arthur C. Clarke
                    1984- George Orwell
                    War & Peace- Tolstoy
                    Julius Caesar- Shakespeare
                    The Odessey- Homer
                    The Illiad- Homer
                    Romeo & Juliet- Shakespeare
                    Contact- Carl Sagan

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                    • #85
                      1) Thomas "Every Book's A Masterpiece" Bernhard - Gargoyles
                      2) Joseph Heller - Catch 22
                      3) Jon Dos Passos - U.S.A.
                      4) William Burroughs - The Western Lands
                      5) Philip K. D i c k - A Scanner Darkly
                      6) Elias Canetti - Auto Da Fe
                      7) Mikhail Bulgakov - The Master and Margerita
                      8) Ken Kesey - One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest
                      9) J.G. Ballard - Concrete Island
                      10) J.K Huymans - A Rebours (AKA Against The Grain AKA Against Nature)



                      Edit: Put spaces in Phil's last name
                      Last edited by stevechafin; December 23, 2002, 03:33.

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                      • #86
                        My Personal favorites are:

                        Shakespeare: Othello, MacBeth
                        Jack London: Call of the Wild, White Fang
                        Tom Clancy: Cardinal In The Kremlin, Red Storm Rising.
                        Homer- The Illiad
                        Charles Dickens: Great Expectations
                        Orwell- Animal Farm



                        Are we considering Political documents/ speeches also?

                        If so.....

                        The Cross Of Gold by William Jennings Bryan
                        The Declaration of Independence- Thomas Jefferson et al.
                        How the Other Half Lives (authors name escapes me at present)
                        * A true libertarian is an anarchist in denial.
                        * If brute force isn't working you are not using enough.
                        * The difference between Genius and stupidity is that Genius has a limit.
                        * There are Lies, Damned Lies, and The Republican Party.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by El Leon
                          I'd go for David Mamet, even if he is "trendy," for the sheer fact that he is not Newyorkian.
                          Maybe he isn't, but American Buffalo is about as New Yawk as you can get.
                          It is much easier to be critical than to be correct. Benjamin Disraeli

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Boris Godunov
                            Some of you people have a strange concept of what constitutes "fiction."
                            Monkspider himself caused this confusion.
                            The titel of this thread is: Top ten works of literature ever?
                            In his post he asks:
                            "What are the top ten works of fiction ever written?"

                            I suppose you will agree with this snob that fiction and literature are two different concepts.
                            Jews have the Torah, Zionists have a State

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Kepler
                              Maybe he isn't, but American Buffalo is about as New Yawk as you can get.
                              Nope. It's as Chicago as you can get.

                              I suppose you will agree with this snob that fiction and literature are two different concepts.
                              Fiction is rather ambiguous. It is currently in use for classifying anything that is not "academic" by booksellers. But is also is used to refer to novels, as opposed to other genres.
                              Literature, like I posted before, is not the same. It is the "letters" of a language, so I would have to say that literature would have to be written works that are representative of the language, because of their use of it, influence, etc.

                              Thereby I would say that Orwell is literature (look up 'Orwellian' and see his influence in other writers), whereas my favourite sci-fi novelists are more debatable (Phillip K. D i c K and Douglas Adams), though I would argue that the former is moreso.
                              II. 193 And fight them until there is no more tumult and oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah; but if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression.

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                              • #90
                                divine comedy by dante
                                heart of darkness by conrad
                                paradise lost by john milton
                                the orestia by aeschylus
                                1984 by Orwell
                                lord of the rings by tolkien
                                "Hamlet" by SHakespeare
                                Jane Eyre by Emily Bronte
                                The Scarlet Letter by Hawthorne

                                honorable mention: Cry, The Beloved Country by alan paton
                                "Speaking on the subject of conformity: This rotting concept of the unfathomable nostril mystifies the fuming crotch of my being!!! Stop with the mooing you damned chihuahua!!! Ganglia!! Rats eat babies!" ~ happy noodle boy

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