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Originally posted by tinyp3nis
Yes we are. The reason in this example is not evolution, or atleast that what they told me.
Yes we are. The reason in this example is not evolution, or atleast that what they told me.
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we are taller due to better diet and healthcare.Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.
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ROTFLMAO.Originally posted by CyberShy
Why I not believe in evolution?
several reasons:
- the first cause argument.
Really, evolution has nothing to do with the beginning of the universe.
Originally posted by CyberShy
- life is too comlex to occur/evolve on random change
This is almost as bad. First of all, you are mixing up two issues. For the first one, abiogenesis, read my thread on the probability argument. As to the second point, evolution is not random. I am sure this has been pointed out to you before.
What is "degeneration?" Any cites?Originally posted by CyberShy
- there are more recent exmples of degeneration than of evolutoin
No it doesn't. Only Creationists portray it that way. Then again, it is not surprising considering there's nothing too low for them.Originally posted by CyberShy
- Evolution-believe works like a religion. I believe it because my father, my mother and my teacher told me so. And all smart people on the earth believe it, thus it must be true. Oh, and those smart people who do not believe in evolution are dumb anyway. (Check Urban Ranger's signature)
Originally posted by CyberShy
- The wish is the father of the thought (theory)
As I said, Creationists stoops to any depth - now demonising their opponents. Thanks for making my point.Originally posted by CyberShy
- Pure Evolutionists like UR / PH are fundamentalistic fanatics with superior feelings.
That's for the benefit of the audience, not for the Creationists themselves.Originally posted by CyberShy
Eventhough they feel that brilliant compared to silly creationists they spend half their life debating them.
What argument?Originally posted by CyberShy
I never spent more than 5 minutes explaining a kid that santa doesn't exist. Either I should try harder to convince the kids or UR / PH must be religious freaks.
(yeah, they hate this argument.)
It is not an argument at all. Calling your opponents names is merely a fallacy.
How does your common sense make heads and tails out of Quantum Physics?Originally posted by CyberShy
- My common sence says it makes no sence. All this beauty on this earth appeared by random change? By usually damaging mutations? Nah....
Just curious, why do you keep posting the same arguments dispite the fact that they have been repeatedly refuted?Originally posted by CyberShy
CyberShy (awaiting all those cool usual predictable reactions. yes, this reaction was predictable as well)
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Has anyone even condsidered what Adam and Eve's children were up to with each other ? Talk about keeping it in the family. And with the grandchildren. Oh man, it would be like something off Jerry Springer's show. I think that a few "random mutations" would be the least of that family's problems.
Sorry to lower the tone with this post, but this is a serious point. How is it possible that the entire human race of 5 or 6 billion people came from just one man and his wife?
Creationists should get real, fast.
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It was OK then just not now, I think you are having difficulty in comming to trems with the Bible contradiciting itself. You should go and talk to a priest he will tell you which bits to believe and which bits are just made up.Originally posted by War of Art
Has anyone even condsidered what Adam and Eve's children were up to with each other ? Talk about keeping it in the family. And with the grandchildren. Oh man, it would be like something off Jerry Springer's show. I think that a few "random mutations" would be the least of that family's problems.
Sorry to lower the tone with this post, but this is a serious point. How is it possible that the entire human race of 5 or 6 billion people came from just one man and his wife?
Creationists should get real, fast.
-Jam
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otherwise you might end up in hellSpace is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.
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Heheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheand the creationists who have a higher level of science education
And where would you find these, pray tell?
*struggling hard to avoid splitting sides*Gnu Ex Machina - the Gnu in the MachineComment
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I had this huge fight back in highschool with a chick who beleived in adam and eve literally and that the world was no more than 6004 years old (or something). So like, dinosaur bones are God's big joke!@God
But seriously, Stinger, a frined of mine is studying to become a catholic priest and he is convinced of evolution. evolution is not so much a belief as some think or even a theory but fact, as can be seen by the galapagos islands and such other hard to get places.
Whether WE have evolved from apes I suppose instead of from adam and eve I suppose you could argue, if you REALLY REALLY had nothing better to do.
I DO find it absolutely fvcking insane that schools in the US, even though they claim to be secular and not based on any specific religin, REFUSE, yes refuse to teach evolution. absolutely pathetic.Comment
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Most schools in the US teach evolution, albeit a very dumbed down version. Of course most everything taught in US schools (K-12) is a dumbed down version.
Very few people don't believe in some form of evolution. I don't think I've ever heard someone even try to refute that micro evolution happens, as it's quite evident that it does. There are still problems with the overall theory of evolution, still questions it doesn't answer, and that's where people get confused. They think scientific theory is meant to explain everything, when it is only meant to explain the evidence we currently have. People calling evolution (the overall theory) fact is another example of this misconception.
The other common misconception deals with statistics. As long as there is a probability that is not 0, it can happen. You roll a billion sided die, and one of the possibilities will happen, even though they are all 1 in a billion. This concept extends to any odds.
Then of course, if you truely believe in an omnipotent being, then anything is possible. As long as science is viewed from that standpoint, disbelief in anything is possible.Comment
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ROTFLMAO.
Really, evolution has nothing to do with the beginning of the universe.
I know that.
The first cause argument shows to me that there must be more.....
What is "degeneration?" Any cites?
sure, www.google.com: search for: degeneration.
No it doesn't. Only Creationists portray it that way.
I'm not surprised that you say it isn't.
remember, you're one of the evolution-fanatics.
the wish gave birth to the theory.
now demonising their opponents.
demonising? you've listened too much to the dutch politic news about demonising Pim Fortuyn.
Besides that, why is it 'the true' if it's said to me, but demonising if it's said to you?
That's for the benefit of the audience, not for the Creationists themselves.
ah, it's all show.
That perfectly fits into the 'it's all religion' argument.
What argument? It is not an argument at all. Calling your opponents names is merely a fallacy.
I didn't call you any name.
I raised a question. It's obvious that the answer should be that I should try harder to convince the kids that santa does not exist.
I don't understand why you chose the "I am a religious freak" answer. I would never say such a thing about myself.
Why do you concider yourself to be a religious freak?
Why don't you tell me that I should convince the kids?
I think you've compared christianity several times with believe in santa.
How does your common sense make heads and tails out of Quantum Physics?
it's Interesting.
Just curious, why do you keep posting the same arguments dispite the fact that they have been repeatedly refuted?
YOU THINk that you refuted me.
I think I refuted you. conclusion: we both claim to be right.
The utter cool thing is that you have such a superior feeling that you can't see that. You're not much different than the pope who banned Galileo.
But, to answer your question, I did not raise any ARGUMENT. The question was raised WHY I do not believe in evolution.
I just answered the question.
Of course I knew that a religous fanatic like you would jump on it. You're so predictable
Formerly known as "CyberShy"
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Has anyone even condsidered what Adam and Eve's children were up to with each other ?
brother / sisters who reproduce have the problem that damaged gens cannot be repaired because both partners have the same damaged gen.
In thsoe early days there were no broken gens.Formerly known as "CyberShy"
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If there were no 'broken' genes, and there is no mutation to cause evolution then how do you explain how the genes got 'broken'?Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
We've got both kindsComment
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To believe in creation is to be completely illogical. Evolution has already been proven by fossil records and carbon dating. Matter of fact the world is much older than 6,000 years as most creationists say. Additionally to further discredit creationism, ice core drilling can show records for the past couple million years of the climate and weather, not to mention some fossils have even been discovered in the process.
Now can creationists shut up?For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
We've got both kindsComment
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How does carbon dating prove evolution?Originally posted by Fez
To believe in creation is to be completely illogical. Evolution has already been proven by fossil records and carbon dating.One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.Comment
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Well pardon my wording. It doesn't. It only disproves creation.Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin
How does carbon dating prove evolution?
Well anyways, evolution has already been proven on the micro scale. And fossil records indicate evolution is true.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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It makes people who think the earth is 6000 years old look pretty stupid, bu then again so do alot of thingsSpace is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.
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