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Israel or South Africa will not be first users of WMD. Iraq could well be. Therefore Iraq's need taking off them.
They are too late. The US was the first user.
Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy. We've got both kinds
In response to others' use of weapons of destruction. That was an isolated case, and the US never likely to use them first, unless in pre-emptive retaliation.
pre-emptive retaliation: attacking someone before they can do anything on the ground that they might do something.
Exult in your existence, because that very process has blundered unwittingly on its own negation. Only a small, local negation, to be sure: only one species, and only a minority of that species; but there lies hope. [...] Stand tall, Bipedal Ape. The shark may outswim you, the cheetah outrun you, the swift outfly you, the capuchin outclimb you, the elephant outpower you, the redwood outlast you. But you have the biggest gifts of all: the gift of understanding the ruthlessly cruel process that gave us all existence [and the] gift of revulsion against its implications.
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It was a terrorist attack, they wanted to scare Japan into surrendering to them.
If, say, Israel launched an airstrike on Iraq. Something they've done before, and Iraq responded with WMD would that be any different to what the US did?
Ok so the Japanese airstrike on Pearl Harbour was a major one and the US nuke use came at the end of a long war but is it really that different?
Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy. We've got both kinds
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"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead
No Fez, you didn't. Try to understand what he said - that you can realize war is bad but think it is unfortunately necessary in some cases (like you do with Iraq). Unless of course you think that Iraq should be attacked constantly and without remorse, killing everyone regardless of who their leader is.
Yes but he said anybody who is pro-war in Iraq is insane. I am pro-war in Iraq, and I am that way accepting all of the possible consquences and outcomes. War is not a good thing but is required sometimes and in this case is absolutely necessary because of Saddam Hussein, not because of Iraqi people. Afterall, the Iraqi people have to be liberated from Saddam's fists.
South Africa has WoMD?
No they do not. Or at least they say they do not. They voluntarily got rid of all their nuclear weapons in 1991.
On March 25, 1993, Prime Minister P.W. DeKlerk announced that six of a planned seven atomic bombs had been built, but then dismantled in 1990. (4) This is the first case of a country voluntarily scrapping its nuclear weapons. (Later examples are Belarus, Kazahkstan, and Ukraine.) South Africa signed the NPT in 1991. With the advent of the Mandela government, the Arniston has been cancelled, nuclear weapons development has been repudiated, and South Africa has joined the MTCR in October 1995. In February 1999, South Africa's first satellite, Sunsat was launched into space on board a US Air Force Boeing Delta II rocket.
They rather redirected money towards launching Satellites.
For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)
Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy. We've got both kinds
Originally posted by MikeH
There is some question to your sanity.
Why is that, leftist?
For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)
Originally posted by Kepler
Under 20 they're just sheep following their peer group, just like the under 20's who are pro-war.
I take offence at that. Just because someone's at high school doesn't mean that 100% of their opinions are defined by the majority. I'm under 20 and I hold some individual and clearly-defined views which are considerably at odds with those of my peer group.
And Fez...using 'leftist' as an insult really doesn't work...
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Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy. We've got both kinds
That's exactly the point. He meant it to be derogatory, but to some people it's just a statement of fact.
"Love the earth and sun and animals, despise riches, give alms to every one that asks, stand up for the stupid and crazy, devote your income and labor to others, hate tyrants, argue not concerning God, have patience and indulgence toward the people, take off your hat to nothing known or unknown . . . reexamine all you have been told at school or church or in any book, dismiss whatever insults your own soul, and your very flesh shall be a great poem and have the richest fluency" - Walt Whitman
Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy. We've got both kinds
Yes but he said anybody who is pro-war in Iraq is insane. I am pro-war in Iraq, and I am that way accepting all of the possible consquences and outcomes. War is not a good thing but is required sometimes and in this case is absolutely necessary because of Saddam Hussein, not because of Iraqi people. Afterall, the Iraqi people have to be liberated from Saddam's fists
And more.......Ya gotta take them all out, or none of them. Its just that simple.
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