PC game sales decline for first time ever, Console sales continue to break records

[Giancarlo]

Sh*tty console games can kiss my ass. Computer games will always lead ahead. This decline is temporary and it will quickly reverse. It is obvious that computer games are superior to console games in general, and that is what counts.

And especially this is a load of crap:

Game consoles now rival PCs in the quality of game play, graphics and sound, and recently have entered online gaming, formerly available only on PCs, he said.

Excuse me? Whoever said that probably was smoking some serious crap. PC games will always have better game play, graphics and sounds because the hardware is better. The X-box has a celeron right? So it can kiss my ass.

Oh and you console lovers, should just wait until PC game companies release their vicious assault coming after Christmas. SimCity4, Vietcong, and all these other games will really tear apart the console market. From what I see, the superior hardware in PCs have already alienated consoles from making any further gains.

[Edan]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
The adventure genera on the PC is on currently on life support.

And it's non-existent on the consoles. I think you're overestimating the deaths of the adventure genre. I bet I could go into software Etc and find at least 10-20 adventure games on the shelves.

[Traianvs]

I hear their working on a new Broken Sword (III) !!

Btw adventures still exist on PC such as Syberia etc, but they're maybe not the big budget titles you hear much about..


Btw: Holy cow, i agree with Fez... amazing

[Edan]

You getter better graphics for less with consoles.

When they first come out they might have competitive graphics, but not once they they're 1-2 years old.

Also, as a side issue, IIRC, it's more expensive to make games for consoles (ie, paying for the license, harder to program for, etc). computers will likely always continue to house indie publishers, shareware, freeware, etc.

[Thrawn05]

The only reason PC market is falling is because eveyone who needs a computer has one, and not everyone has an income to get a new computer every 18 months.

The last console I bought (well not really, XMAS gift) was the SNES. I tried NU64 and PS (PS/2) etc... I just never got into them at that point. Mainly because I hate that thumb stick they use now. And I believe that third-person views are blantent cheats, particulary when looking around corners.

I like PC games because
1: You can modd them as a general rule.
2: Are generaly first person whe applied (most can switch).
3: I feel very comfortable with a Keyboard/Mouse.
4: If I'm in a flight sim, or some Mech game, Joysticks work well.
5: I already have 2 computers, why should I get a crippled one for the TV?

Of course, I could go out and get an emulator card, but I don't.

This topic is not debatable, since everyone is locked in their mind, which is okay. I like PC over console, you might like console over PC. I don't care.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Trajanus
Btw adventures still exist on PC such as Syberia etc,

You are just proving my earlier point about the adventure genera on the PC. Look at the sale numbers.

[Giancarlo]

I always thought console games cost more than pc games?

anyways, trajanus, I feel very strongly towards misinformed people who even try to claim console games are better than PC games.

[Edan]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
You are just proving my earlier point about the adventure genera on the PC. Look at the sale numbers.

Huh?

I don't know the numbers, but IIRC, the sales for Syberia have been high enough that they're doing a sequel.

Also, Dreamcatcher, a publisher of mostly adventure games (until the last 6 months or so, whe they've expanded into other genres as well), has been making money, not losing it.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Trajanus
hypocrisy..where? if you are referring to my typo...well that's cos i type quickly and not in my own language, kay?

No, I was referring to how you dismissed the entire realm of console gaming by saying it's for dumbasses.

Saying something like that makes you a dumbass.

I actually find the graphics better on my TFT screen than on my TV.. (too much blocks and so on...hate seeing blocks)

I find graphics better on my 36" HDTV than my 19" CRT-monitor. The sound is a helluva lot better too.

[Skanky Burns]

So, plug your HDTV into your computers graphics card.

[Asher]

Fez, Fez, Fez...leave this for the big boys.

Originally posted by Fez
Sh*tty console games can kiss my ass. Computer games will always lead ahead. This decline is temporary and it will quickly reverse. It is obvious that computer games are superior to console games in general, and that is what counts.

This makes no sense. Console games have outsold PC games by a good margin for at least the past five years. And now, PC games sales are shrinking and console games continue to break new records...

And especially this is a load of crap:

Excuse me? Whoever said that probably was smoking some serious crap. PC games will always have better game play, graphics and sounds because the hardware is better. The X-box has a celeron right? So it can kiss my ass.

It's all so easy when you ignore what you don't want to see. No, the Xbox does not have a Celeron, the Xbox has a P3 with 128KB of L2 cache. That's not how a Celeron is defined, in fact a Celeron is crippled in numerous ways that the P3's CPU is not.

Then there's the issue of how you can "write to the metal" on the Xbox that you can't on the PC. The Xbox's graphics chip is essentially a GeForce 4 chip at 233MHz. John Carmack says you can expect twice the performance out of a fixed platform like the Xbox than you can out of an equivalent PC. The Xbox doesn't have a 1GB/s AGP bus as a bottleneck.

Because PC architecture is so varied, they can't do much optimization for it for each platform of PC. They can on the Xbox. For example, the PC version of Rallisport Challenge chugs along on a 2600+ Athlon XP system with a GeForce 4 Ti4600 on the PC, and it never dips below 30fps on the Xbox.

Oh and you console lovers, should just wait until PC game companies release their vicious assault coming after Christmas. SimCity4, Vietcong, and all these other games will really tear apart the console market. From what I see, the superior hardware in PCs have already alienated consoles from making any further gains.

Fez, that is soooooooo lame.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Skanky Burns
So, plug your HDTV into your computers graphics card.

Which graphics card has good 1080i output?

I have yet to hear of one with competent HDTV output, aside from the ATI AllInWonder series which is crap for gaming...

Besides, a video card with competent HDTV output costs more than the entire Xbox itself.

Not to mention the fact that it's a bigger pain in the ass to deal with patches, installations, etc. on the PC. And the fact that it's much more difficult to, say, get 4 players in the same room playing.

The only PC games that are better than their console counterparts are strategy games (a la Civ3 and RoN), hardcore multiplayer FPS games (CS), and perhaps card games.

[Odin]

Consoles as we knew them 5 years ago are dyning. Consoles are turning into computers hooked up to a TV instead of a monitor.

Fez is right, CONSOLES SUCK.

[korn469]

i think one of the biggest problems with pc gaming is that mainstream computers people buy at retail stores have ****ty ass graphics cards, it seems like pc makers will give a p4 2.4 gig cpu, but then couple it with a GeForce2

i think that the pc market needs to streamline the hardware end as much as possible, and even then i'm not sure if pc gaming wouldn't keep up with consoles

however simply because console gaming is huge, doesn't mean that pc gaiming is dead

PC game sales are projected to reach only $1.4 billion, or flat with 2001

seeing as it's a 1.4 billion dollar industry makes me think that pc gaming isn't going anywhere for a while

[Shi Huangdi]

There is still an active and alive market for PC games. Certain companies are doing very well, Blizzard for instance is getting very rich over WC3. Or take a look at Paradox, they have a very solid market with their EU-type game series.