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  • #16
    I haven't gotten a chance to play 1.02 of HOI but I noticed that it didn't chance the supply/trade system around much or add partisans both of which are DESPERATELY needed.

    I just played a '36 game as Sweden and after a couple years of DAMN hard fighting I was able to annex the bulk of Germany since the Germans just couldn't fight a three-front war forever (although they were able to capture my beachhead and force me to evucuate germany once) and now Sweden stretches to Switzerland. Was very funny seeing how ridiculously long it took for France to launch a counter attack when me and Poland had germany on the ropes

    I'm having a really hard time getting a hang of the (in my opion very crappy) supply system. For most of the war my industrial output was half of what it was when I didn't have any units in germany and no matter what I could I couldn't figure out how to change this which drove me nuts...

    Also, when the AI is able to establish a front it can generally keep up a fairly good defence, but if you can pole holes in it the AI goes down very quickly (was able to conquer India with extreme ease as Thailand...
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    • #17
      Whoa! Morrowind is good but it's far from the greatest game ever. There are severe problems with the way the game is set up.

      Character selection - The birthsigns are totally imbalanced with the Atronach being 10x better than all the others. Character classes mean absolutely nothing. Races mean very little also, with the exception of the beast races being weakened by not being able to wear the BOBS.

      Battle System - Magic is worthless to battle with. Even a pure mage will have more success using a big sword than magic.

      Thieving - it is pointless to use lockpicks when a simple open spell will get anything open for cheap.

      Plugins - Plugins are one of the strengths of this game and there are a ton of good ones out there, but the game saves in such a way that changing any plugins midgame has a huge chance to totally **** up your game. The only way to safely use plugins is to start a new character and never change the loaded plugins.

      Performance - I don't consider 10 fps good performance. Morrowind runs fine on slower machines with the view distance in and settings turned down. I don't like it when everything is foggy.

      Given all that, the game is still awesome. I love it. I just don't think it's even close to being the best game ever.
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      • #18
        Whoa! Morrowind is good but it's far from the greatest game ever.


        Name a better one.

        Character selection - The birthsigns are totally imbalanced with the Atronach being 10x better than all the others. Character classes mean absolutely nothing. Races mean very little also, with the exception of the beast races being weakened by not being able to wear the BOBS.


        I liked the 'Lady' best of all. Classes and Races aren't supposed to mean anything. You are supposed to build yourself up.

        Battle System - Magic is worthless to battle with. Even a pure mage will have more success using a big sword than magic.


        I hardly use magic, so it works for me. I always thought it was silly that mages didn't have to be good with weaponry.

        Thieving - it is pointless to use lockpicks when a simple open spell will get anything open for cheap.


        Then use open spells. I'm not forcing you to use lockpicks.

        Plugins - Plugins are one of the strengths of this game and there are a ton of good ones out there, but the game saves in such a way that changing any plugins midgame has a huge chance to totally **** up your game. The only way to safely use plugins is to start a new character and never change the loaded plugins.


        I only use official plugins

        Performance - I don't consider 10 fps good performance. Morrowind runs fine on slower machines with the view distance in and settings turned down. I don't like it when everything is foggy.


        The lowest I get in 20 fps. I usually get 40-50 fps.

        I just don't think it's even close to being the best game ever.


        There is not a single game close to as good it is. Fallout comes closest in the RPG department, but it falls very, very short. And I've played a LOT of games.
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        • #19
          Has anyone said Medieval Total war yet?
          I got that game a few weeks ago and I must say it is one of the best strategy games I have played in a long time. Its a million times better then shogun as well.
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          • #20
            not too up on current games but fallout was (and is) ace
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            • #21
              I still love my Baldurs Gate.. As for Neverwinter Nights II.. I'm buying it soon. Sorry, if I wasn't of any help
              Already a sequel?
              Why wasn't I informed?

              Neverwinter Nights has an awesome scenario editor and capabilities- but you have to figure it out yourself- but if you know C++ probramming or even BASIC and can slog through the interface, the game is WORTH it! You can do many things with your AI; you can tell it to go to certain places at certain times, different conversation trees, etc.!
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              • #22
                "To be realistic, the Axis should be at a real disadvantage. They were historically."

                Ya once the USA entered the war that was true. But for awhile things were looking pretty up for the Axis. After Barbarossa started the Soviets were in a really desperate state and if not for some stupid moves by Hitler, Germany might have won on that front.

                "Especially multiplayer. "

                So is it easy to get good multiplayer campaigns with people? How is the online service for Neverwinter Nights? Does it a have a server like battle.net where you can meet people, or do you have to know people who also play it? Do people create enough new campaigns to give good replayablity?

                "I hardly use magic, so it works for me. I always thought it was silly that mages didn't have to be good with weaponry."

                So magic does suck in Morrowwind? I always liked magic-using characters in D&D. L(

                "Has anyone said Medieval Total war yet?"

                What's it like?

                "Neverwinter Nights has an awesome scenario editor and capabilities- but you have to figure it out yourself- but if you know C++ probramming or even BASIC and can slog through the interface, the game is WORTH it! "

                Sorry, no programing skills. But do you still like the game even without it?

                "As for Neverwinter Nights II.. I'm buying it soon.'

                When will it be out? I never heard of this one..
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                • #23
                  Whoa! Morrowind is good but it's far from the greatest game ever. There are severe problems with the way the game is set up.
                  I have to agree with this... and from certain point on the fun stops, atleast it stopped for me, and the game gets very repeative.

                  Also, the non linearity is too much from morrowind to take on, it does not work, not nearly as good as i.e Fallout series. Leveling up your character was not very fun either, the non linearity had part with this too. The idea of being able to go all places was kind of nice, but in the end it didn't work very well

                  Mike is right, your character can specialize in something but does not have to, even the game does not encourage player to do it either, since you soon find out the best ways to deal with things are simple. Non tieves can open locked doors as easy as thieves with very little effort, and like Mike said warrior/mage fighting styles are not very balanced, there is no use using spells when it takes 5x less time to just beat them up.

                  The lowest I get in 20 fps. I usually get 40-50 fps.
                  Would you tell me what machine you have, and also your settings (view distance, shadows and AI distance, maybe resolution too but in morrowind it has little effect on performance). Sure I get 50-100 indoors. Go to the Balmora slit rider and look at the city and tell me what you get in fps... There I get 13...


                  There is not a single game close to as good it is. Fallout comes closest in the RPG department, but it falls very, very short. And I've played a LOT of games.
                  I have played many games too. Sorry to step on your toes but it's only fair people hear other opinions too, so they would consider twice buying morrowind. My and my friend certainly don't think it's a great game, he is not even going to finish it! He just said he is too bored with it and don't want to play it nomore.... btw he has also played many games.
                  I did like both fallouts, actually I think they were great and can't wait to get fallout 3 if they make it.
                  So there you have it, there are many people who like the game, but also people who don't like it. Actually 66% of the people I know IRL think it's OK (me and my cousin) and 33% of them regret buying (friend I was referring to). I think the guys who made morrowind earned my money, but imho it could have been much much better, and there are tons of better games. But Morrowind is a different game, not many like it now, that is its strong side...

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                  • #24
                    Did you guys really have trouble using spells?

                    I am thinking of starting a fighter/mage type character. I tried an archer, but I struggled with him.

                    Morrowind is a huge game with many possibilities. The graphics are top notch.

                    But I admit I'm not keen on the races and classes. I'm too used to D&D.

                    I will play the game through once. Although I already restarted once, and probably will restart again to find the right character for me.

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                    • #25
                      I haven't gotten a chance to play 1.02 of HOI but I noticed that it didn't chance the supply/trade system around much or add partisans both of which are DESPERATELY needed.
                      They've changed the supply (it's much harder to run a campaign without adequate supply) and trade (the world market no longer has limitless resources) models, but have not added partisians. I definitely agree that they are needed though.

                      I just played a '36 game as Sweden and after a couple years of DAMN hard fighting I was able to annex the bulk of Germany since the Germans just couldn't fight a three-front war forever (although they were able to capture my beachhead and force me to evucuate germany once) and now Sweden stretches to Switzerland. Was very funny seeing how ridiculously long it took for France to launch a counter attack when me and Poland had germany on the ropes
                      Yep, in 1.01, I conquered Germany (with all their usual conquests) as Republican Spain with 7 infantry divisions myself. Previously, the AI's didn't build enough units. This has been impoved quite a bit (but still not perfect) with 1.02.

                      I'm having a really hard time getting a hang of the (in my opion very crappy) supply system. For most of the war my industrial output was half of what it was when I didn't have any units in germany and no matter what I could I couldn't figure out how to change this which drove me nuts...
                      I'm not sure what problem you're having... It could be that your armor and mechanized/motorized forces are taking up valuable oil supplies that your industry needs.

                      Also, when the AI is able to establish a front it can generally keep up a fairly good defence, but if you can pole holes in it the AI goes down very quickly (was able to conquer India with extreme ease as Thailand...
                      This is much harder to do given tougher restrictions on army supply and AI army sizes.
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                      • #26
                        Allow me to throw in some praise for HoI. I have to admit, it's a heck of a lot of fun. There were some rather discouraging issues in earlier versions, but ever since 1.02 has come out the game has been 1000% better. This is a game that could very well be the best ever, after proper patching is applied.
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                        • #27
                          Ya once the USA entered the war that was true. But for awhile things were looking pretty up for the Axis. After Barbarossa started the Soviets were in a really desperate state and if not for some stupid moves by Hitler, Germany might have won on that front.
                          But the point is, Germany were very lucky to be in that position. For instance, if the French beefed up their lines at the Ardennes, or if Red Army caught the Wehrmacht unprepared to fight a defensive war in '41, instead of the other way around, German forces certainly wouldn't have beat the USSR. What it comes down to is that the Germans were pretty damn lucky to get as far as they did, and even then, Soviet and American industry and manpower ultimately made their fight futile.
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