should sweden abolish monarchy?

[Sten Sture]

Originally posted by David Floyd
Hmmm, I dunno...she looks like she'd be pretty expensive, even for just one night...

[Rasbelin]

Originally posted by Sten Sture
The Swedish monarchy is rumored to be one of the least expensive in the world - is that true??

That's actually true. The Danish and Norwegian royal families are cheap too, but I assume the Swedish Bernadotte family is the cheapest in Scandinavia, unlike e.g. the Windsors that are expensive after all.

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by Azazel

Only my sick head could notice this, but what would she be doing in conjucture whilst staring at the porn?

Staring as in being the Star of the porn movie.

[CyberGnu]

Kroppie, I read somewhere that the royal family actually is cost effective. The royal family has an amazing advertizing value (just look at their american tour a few years ago, and the interest it sparked in american swedish descendants), as well as their space filling duties. Countries without royalty has to send their important people to useless duties such as head of state funerals, weddings and such....

If they weren't cost effective though, I'd say Down with the Monarchy!

(BTW, did you know that the first Bernadotte swore an oeath to "fight monarchy in all shapes" about ten years before agreeing to become king of sweden? )

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Crap Royalist propaganda. It's based on two massive fallacies.

1- Loads of tourists see Buckingham Palace, Tower of London, etc. If we didn't have a monarch, they wouldn't come.

2- It's based on the Royal Family's Civil List income, and doesn't take into account the income from sources such as the Duchy of Cornwall. Nor does it take into account the money that could be raised by selling/renting/using more efficiently the following- Balmoral, Windsor Castle, Sandringham, Clarence House, St James' Palace, The Queen's private art collection, etc, etc, etc.

The arguments that the royal family are cost effective are either an outright lie, or are made by someone with absolutely no grounding in business or marketing.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Ah- Cyber's talking about the Swdes. Fergit it.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Sweden's concept of monarchy is great. "Hey! We need a king! Let's have him- he's rich!"

[Gangerolf]

Norway's royal family is much cheaper. It's like "Why should they get more money than normal people?!"
They get more money of course but not as much as in the class divided countries in europe.

[Kropotkin]

Cybergnu: Cost effective, my ass! Their commerical value is something that its defenders brings up from time to time. I don't buy it. I don't see the need for all those "space filling duties", just get rid of them. The opening of the parlament by the king for example means virtually nothing for the political system. It's just pointless in todays world.

And obviously Jean Baptiste Bernadotte swore to fight monarchy, he was in the French republican army.

[SpencerH]

I'm surprised they let her 'wear' that gown at the Nobel award function. Most of the laureates that attend are barely alive as it is. That outfit could have wiped most of them out with heart attacks.

[Anodyne]

Originally posted by Kropotkin
Den sista kungen skall hängas i den siste biskopens gård!!!!

Weren't it the Italian revolutionalists who said "We'll hang the last of kings with the intestines of the last pope"?

Your version is lamer

[Pavlov]

Originally posted by Anodyne


Weren't it the Italian revolutionalists who said "We'll hang the last of kings with the intestines of the last pope"?

That was Voltaire. (It's one of the Apolyton-quotes )

[Anodyne]

Originally posted by Pavlov
That was Voltaire.

The philosopher or the apolytoner?

[Bereta_Eder]

So did the communists nicked it from Voltaire?

Freedom will be reality when the last beaurocrat is hanged by the intenstines of the last capitalist
(or something to that effect)

[Anodyne]

For the pauper a bone, the hanged man a song but for no bastard a throne.