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Originally posted by DinoDoc
The person who brings it to the world, rather than his own little corner of it, is the person that gets the credit. Which is why Anders Chydenius has faded into general obscurity.
Depends on how you define "world". If world=England, that statement would perhaps make some sense. But we all know that in fact, world=Finland.
The whole thng started out when a couple of Europeans in another thread a long time ago (I think one of them was Pekka actually) said the US wasn't the best country in the world, and not even second or third best. I wrote in argument to that in my "like it or not Euros we're the best" thread. And I get hell from some of the Europeans.
Then Pekka and a couple of other Finnish said they were the best. Though I disagree and would argue with them, I respect that that's their belief.
But why am I the one getting criticized by everyone?
Also, I believe Japan is second best, not a European country. The Japanese have such a strong work ethic, a great school system, are extremely advanced, have made many many cultural contrubutions to the world, and they work together very well with such precision. They also are very gallant fighters (not as much as the Finnish or the Polish though).
"The first man who, having fenced off a plot of land, thought of saying, 'This is mine' and found people simple enough to believe him was the real founder of civil society. How many crimes, wars, murders, how many miseries and horrors might the human race had been spared by the one who, upon pulling up the stakes or filling in the ditch, had shouted to his fellow men: 'Beware of listening to this imposter; you are lost if you forget the fruits of the earth belong to all and that the earth belongs to no one." - Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Ha, don't try to embroider the truth. It IS really DAMN cold here... so what if we get some 4 months of heat, but it's quite effectively balanced with 4 months of semi-warm to quite cold and 4 months of helluva cold temperatures.
Tut, tut, tut. Not so fast, buddy. That's a biased opinion actually. There's much colder places than Finland and "4 months of helluva cold temperatures" isn't true. Occasionally we can even have up to around a few plus degress in December and e.g. now we have -8 in Tampere, which isn't "helluva cold" IMHO. If it would something like -20, then I would think it's very cold, but it still means that we don't have 4 months with extremely cold weather. The coldest days tend to be in January and February, so if we summarise them, I would say that in average we have a few weeks each year of very cold weather, not 4 months.
No, I'm not making things sound that much better, but this isn't the North pole or Verjkohansjk in Siberia.
Seriously speaking though, our climate is sub-continental, with relatively warm summers (Average temperatures being similar to the English summer, without the moist and "milding" effects of the sea) and cold winters (Hm, can't really find a parallel... Alaska perhaps?)
Actually the parallel in North America is Canada for Finland.
"Kids, don't listen to uncle Solver unless you want your parents to spank you." - Solver
When I saw that chart I first thought "damn, that's cold," then I thought, "wait, it's metric," then I couldn't figure out if it was cold or not, then I figured, "even in metric, negative is cold." So yeah, damn, that's cold.
Now it's over 75%. Internet access is common and equally available to all for free in public bulidings (e.g. your libraries can only dream about that, unless the state you happen to live in has understood how important libraries are).
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Sorry to tell you this, but our Libraries and public schools have free internet access as well.
Also we have netzero and juno, where you can get 10 hours of internet access a month for free.
Originally posted by Seneca
Of course, the saving grace of the British is that we know we're sh!t.
Typical British modesty/pessimism! Not many people know we're the 4th largest economy in the world(After US, Japan and Germany)! We have the SAS/SBS too!
I hold Finland in the highest regard! The Winter War was a jolly good show!
so what if we get some 4 months of heat, but it's quite effectively balanced with 4 months of semi-warm to quite cold and 4 months of helluva cold temperatures.
Not so fast, buddy. That's a biased opinion actually. There's much colder places than Finland and "4 months of helluva cold temperatures" isn't true. Occasionally we can even have up to around a few plus degress in December and e.g. now we have -8 in Tampere, which isn't "helluva cold" IMHO. If it would something like -20, then I would think it's very cold, but it still means that we don't have 4 months with extremely cold weather. The coldest days tend to be in January and February, so if we summarise them, I would say that in average we have a few weeks each year of very cold weather, not 4 months. 
You must live in Texas or somewhere warm. 
Hmmm...what will be here in February?
Jesus! That was back in 1996/97, not 2002. 
! We have the SAS/SBS too! 
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