It was a nice experiment

[Lorizael]

Well there goes the United States everybody. So long to the Constitution.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A58308-2002Nov30.html

Edit: Bad grammar and...

For those that don't wanna read this because of the length, Bush is creating a second justice system that ignores about half the Bill of Rights and is completely and totally controlled by him.

The other branches of the government, in this system, have no jurisdiction whatsoever and because of this searches of houses and such can be conducted anywhere, so long as those doing the searching have a warrant from an organization under Bush's control.

The throwing out of the Bill of Rights and the searches without proper warrants and secret proceedings for all of the decisions made having to do with this only apply, however, to "enemy combatants".

Which is defined by Bush and Bush alone (and those around him), with no input required from either branch of the government.

Goodnight everybody.

[Alex]

Ha. We have plenty of space down here. Be my guest.

[DRoseDARs]

Seriously, why does Bush, Inc. insist on adding MORE lubricating oil to the US's downward spiral/slippery slope/whatever-you-want-to-call-it...?

[Pekka]

Sounds pretty extreme.. even for extreme situation..
I don't know what to make of it.

[Shi Huangdi]

Ya, it seems like Bush is going too far here.....

[Pekka]

Hmm.. his intentions might be good with this one, but there's a big risk this new law being abused.

[Goingonit]

Good lord.

[Jon Miller]

I must say that, although I am as patriotic as I think is healthy, I definitely disagree with this

Jon Miller

[Evil Knevil]

I think I'll wait until it starts affecting non-terrorists before I get worried.

[DRoseDARs]

Originally posted by Evil Knevil
I think I'll wait until it starts affecting non-terrorists before I get worried.

But see, that's what's so scary about this. THEY are the ones who get to determine who is and is not a 'terrorist' or to use their term 'enemy-combatant'. This latest folly makes it so that they don't have to and never have to present ANY shred of ANY kind of evidence to anyone other than their own. If for some minor reason they consider YOU to be 'of interest' to their investigations, that's it. It's pretty much over for you and there is NO contesting it.

[Dauphin]

In the 17th century it was witches, in the 18/19th century it was masons, 20th century it was commies, 21st century its terrorists.

There is nothing new, the US is just forever paranoid.

[Jaakko]

You don't have to worry at all Evil Knevil, all the detainees are terrorists. If they weren't, they wouldn't have been detained in the first place. Surely we can trust the Bush admin to act in our best interest for us.

[Ramo]

Absolutely. With Ashcroft in charge, how could we possibly expect anything like dishonesty?

[monkspider]

Well it's been a good run guys, USA has gotten itself into the history books and a few civ games. I guess it's time to call it quits.

[DRoseDARs]

Monkspider, It's scary how DEAD ON your signature is in light of what has developed here in the states over the past few months...