This scares me to death! Is all the Islamic world mad?

[Kingof the Apes]

Originally posted by ranskaldan


Nah, for a civilization that managed to kill 6 million people based on race, I don't have that much confidence.

This riot was based on a story.
The holocaust had several factors involved and took several years for Hitler to 'make the time right' to start his massacre.

[Kingof the Apes]

The latest demonstrations began Wednesday with the burning of an office of ThisDay newspaper in Kaduna after it published the article questioned the reasoning of Muslim groups that have condemned the Miss World pageant to be held Dec. 7 in the Nigerian capital, Abuja. Muslim groups say the pageant promotes sexual promiscuity and indecency

So they disapprove of the 'theme' of the pageant because it offends their religion, and they show their displeasure by killing people?

[Hobbes]

So they disapprove of the 'theme' of the pageant because it offends their religion, and they show their displeasure by killing people?

To us, being outwardly sexual is acceptable, but to them, it is morally corrupt as say, pedophilia. And if there was a pedophile's expo over here, I'm sure there would be some ass-kickage. It's all relative to the enviroment.

[Kingof the Apes]

Originally posted by Hobbes


To us, being outwardly sexual is acceptable, but to them, it is morally corrupt as say, pedophilia. And if there was a pedophile's expo over here, I'm sure there would be some ass-kickage. It's all relative to the enviroment.

No one I know would set buildings on fire and kill people over a pedophile expo.

If its so unacceptable to the general population, why have it there?

[Hobbes]

No one I know would set buildings on fire and kill people over a pedophile expo.

Because we are socially conditioned to keep our rage contained, but I think there are many people who would kill a pedophile in blind rage. Perhaps a prophet being shamed is such an offence, that it equals a child be molested over here.

If its so unacceptable to the general population, why have it there?

True, it ain't a good place for a beauty pagent, but pagents are a world wide thing.

[notyoueither]

So, the guy they stabbed and neck laced wrote the article? He published it? He worked at the paper?

This story is disgusting. There are differences between cultures. It is not politically correct to say that one culture is 'better' than another, but stories like that begin to discredit that rather silly notion.

[Hobbes]

A man has a harem and raises a large family of children and then sells the children as sex slaves. This, in my opinion and practically everyone else, is terribly wrong. This takes place all over the rocky mountain region between British Columbia and Utah and probably in many other places in North America.
Every culture has its 'black eye', both western and Islamic. Every culture has its crazies and the not-so-crazies. No culture is better than another.

[ranskaldan]

Originally posted by Kingof the Apes


This riot was based on a story.
The holocaust had several factors involved and took several years for Hitler to 'make the time right' to start his massacre.

Nevertheless, when he DID get started, the German population and military enthusiastically shipped an entire ethnic group through the ghettos, into the concentration camps, into the gas chambers. Reason? The Jews were corrupt, evil, exploiters, etc etc, and they hammered Jesus into the cross. Yes, and in return, German soldiers shoved Jewish babies into gas chambers and later went in to collect the remains to burn.

I fail to see whether this Nigerian mob or the Holocaust perpetrators are more "civilized".

[Dr Strangelove]

Nigeria isn't quite a muslim country. The population is slightly less than 50% muslim, 40% christian, and 10% indigenous religions, yet the government has imposed Sharia law on the whole country.

I'm a little fuzzy about one part of the article that started the riot. The article stated that thwe prophet Muhammed couold have chosen a wife from the beauty pagent contestants. Was this statement meant to recommend their morality, or to mock the prophet as a lecher?

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Hobbes
A man has a harem and raises a large family of children and then sells the children as sex slaves. This, in my opinion and practically everyone else, is terribly wrong. This takes place all over the rocky mountain region between British Columbia and Utah and probably in many other places in North America.
Every culture has its 'black eye', both western and Islamic. Every culture has its crazies and the not-so-crazies. No culture is better than another.

Anyone doing this would be keeping it well hidden, if they do as you portray. If they did not, they would be prosecuted.

And what exactly does that have to do with stabbing and burning uninvolved third parties because of some news paper article?

And to disagree with you, I think your argument is ample evidence that some cultures are better (or worse) than others. Those Mormons who do as you say are sure a lot worse than most. Yes, they are a culture. They maintain a culture distinct from the majority around them. That is why they clustered in what were then isolated areas. To maintain their culture.

[FrantzX]

Christianity got the whole 'Kill the Infidel' thing out of its system during the Crusades and Inquisition. Now we just have the "Annoy the Infidel', which is more or less humane, depending on how you see it.

The thing is, no matter what you think of people like Jerry Fawell and Pat Robertson, do you really see them advocating something like this?

[Zylka]

Originally posted by Hobbes
A man has a harem and raises a large family of children and then sells the children as sex slaves. This, in my opinion and practically everyone else, is terribly wrong. This takes place all over the rocky mountain region between British Columbia and Utah and probably in many other places in North America.
Every culture has its 'black eye', both western and Islamic. Every culture has its crazies and the not-so-crazies. No culture is better than another.

People will desperately try to equate anything with our culture in order to defend a pack of bloodthirsty monkeys holding the koran. He might as well have given another example of muslim violence in trying to point out guilt.

Listen... today, now... WE ARE BETTER THAN THAT PRIMITIVE, APESH*T CULTURE, PERIOD

F*ck.

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by Hobbes
A man has a harem and raises a large family of children and then sells the children as sex slaves. This, in my opinion and practically everyone else, is terribly wrong. This takes place all over the rocky mountain region between British Columbia and Utah and probably in many other places in North America.
Every culture has its 'black eye', both western and Islamic. Every culture has its crazies and the not-so-crazies. No culture is better than another.

The Mormans try very hard to but bigamists in jail. Some slip through the cracks.

[Hobbes]

And what exactly does that have to do with stabbing and burning uninvolved third parties because of some news paper article?

I was pointing out that it is very easy to point the finger. Sure it was absolutely terrible what they did, but if a culture would be condemned on its acts of brutish violence, I don't think the Islamics would be the only ones held accountable.

And to disagree with you, I think your argument is ample evidence that some cultures are better (or worse) than others. Those Mormons who do as you say are sure a lot worse than most. Yes, they are a culture. They maintain a culture distinct from the majority around them. That is why they clustered in what were then isolated areas. To maintain their culture.

If that is true, then shouldn't the Islamic world be given the same benefit of catagorizing the different, and sometimes rogue, sects of itself. The Mormons ARE part of western culture, as are the KKK. They are different than the 'norm', but they are there. Just as the fundamentalists and the fanatics are part of Islam. To us, all we can see is the fanatical because of what the media tells us. We have always been shown as the good guys. Propaganda, people!!

People will desperately try to equate anything with our culture in order to defend a pack of bloodthirsty monkeys holding the koran.

Ah, nothin' like good ol' classic rascism. I wish there was a middle-finger smiley.

[Zylka]

Oh, I'm sorry! How f*cking racist of my to be critical of murderous zealots! They have the mentality of rabid monkeys, and if I want to assume that from examples they give - it's F*CKING RACISM?!

Grow up, and get out more. You're rotting from over-cautious, hyper liberal "EVERYONE CRITICAL IS A RACIST" thinking.