the United States of Europe

[Sava]

Originally posted by jimmytrick
All I can say is that the countries of Europe should read about the way American southern states were eventually enslaved by nefarious Federalist criminals.

ironic use of the word 'enslaved'

[Saint Marcus]

Once you get the entire continent together, then'll we'll talk.

The US doesn't have the entire continent together either. And didnt'they start with a mere 13 states? and they weren't united either, other than in their oposition agains the British. Then later, some states abandoned slavery, and others didn't. America of two speeds.

[Flandrien]

Originally posted by DanS
Perhaps they should change the name to Disunited States of Europe?

That will be the next step, when European states cannot control their budget.

By the way, I wonder who would become president of the USE ?

Maybe they should invite Clinton.

[DinoDoc]

SM: You aren't even to the "Articles of Confederation" yet in your quest for unification.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Maestro
Maybe they should invite Clinton.

I'm sure you guys wouldn't try to impeach him for diddling all your women.

[monolith94]

"The US doesn't have the entire continent together either. And didnt'they start with a mere 13 states? and they weren't united either, other than in their oposition agains the British. Then later, some states abandoned slavery, and others didn't. America of two speeds."
The problem is though, the USA didn't start out with such tremendously jarring cultures. True, the north was far more conservative than the south in the beginning - but we were both English in origin, whereas you have the formidable task of making a nation that has both Finnish people, Greek people, and Spanish people make sense, let alone form a cohesive unit.

[DanS]

"The problem is though, the USA didn't start out with such tremendously jarring cultures."

Well, there were religious differences, which was important to people at the time.

[monolith94]

Different protestant religions, big deal. In the very beginning of the U.S.A. (not the colonies) this wasn't even that big of a deal anymore - by the late 1700s the puritans had mellowed out considerably into the congregational church. Plus the European Union gets to deal with not only one, but two schisms - they've got orthodox, catholic, and protestant.

[DanS]

"Different protestant religions, big deal."

There were lots of catholics in the early States. About 1/2 the pop of Maryland and Pennsylvania, IIRC.

Edit: No, my numbers aren't quite right. Catholicism represented only roughly 2% of the population at the founding.

[Saint Marcus]

and not long after, the US was enlarged with Spanish and French colonies. That worked out, did it not?

[Ned]

The Fourth Reich

[Saint Marcus]

if the 4th Reich is accomplished without bloodshed and oppression, I'm all for it

[Ari Rahikkala]

Even better if it lasts for a thousand years ( or > )

[Saint Marcus]

you bet

[Plan Austral]

Should Rome be the capital of the fourth reich?