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  • The World Tomorrow

    I've been thinking about the future as have most of us...and I've been dying to know what Apolytoners think is going to happen in the future. Is India/Pakistan going to nuke Pakistan/India? Will China get involved? Whats going to happen to America? Will Europe merge to become a superpower?

    Sure, everyone has said at one point or another what they think will happen, but I wanted to collect them into one thread.
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  • #2
    Hang on, cause it's gonna be a weird and wild ride.
    Exult in your existence, because that very process has blundered unwittingly on its own negation. Only a small, local negation, to be sure: only one species, and only a minority of that species; but there lies hope. [...] Stand tall, Bipedal Ape. The shark may outswim you, the cheetah outrun you, the swift outfly you, the capuchin outclimb you, the elephant outpower you, the redwood outlast you. But you have the biggest gifts of all: the gift of understanding the ruthlessly cruel process that gave us all existence [and the] gift of revulsion against its implications.
    -Richard Dawkins

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    • #3
      There'll be instability for a few years and then things will quieten down again; a little like what happened in the last century. A lot of countries won't survive and there may be some new ones coming up - Abkhazia, a united Ireland, West Papua, and Aceh are ones I would advise you to watch for.
      Everything changes, but nothing is truly lost.

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      • #4
        I would like to see a united Europe. Global socialist revolution would be better, but I'm not holding my breath on that one in the near future
        Speaking of Erith:

        "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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        • #5
          -The older radical generation of the 60s and 70s in Muslim countries will die off, and the younger Westernized generation will usher in a new era of democracy.... (25-30 years)

          -Same thing in China, except that the old regime tries to distract them by attacking Taiwan....the young, underpaid Army revolts and China ends up joining Taiwan. The resulting New China gives quasi-independence to Tibet.
          (50-100 years)

          -Ukraine, Byelorussia, and Kazakstan end up gradually being readsorbed by Russia in a peaceful process with mostly economic motivations...(50 years)

          -Space Exploration will be largerly abandoned by the US. China will pick up the exploration of space where the USA left off. (20 years)

          -The USA will gradually become more and more ossified and decadent in its political structures, coming to ressemble the ritualistic political theater of the later Manchu Empire. (process over 200 years)

          -Ireland unites. (30-40 years)

          -South Africa rejuvenates in a new spirit of national racial reconcialiation and individual responisiblity. It comes to ressemble a European social democracy. Quaddafi dies, and Libya joins SA as the moral leaders of the newly regenerated OAS. Together, they battle lawlessness and corrupt despotism in Zimbabwe, Sudan, Egypt, and Congo. This leads to a new African 'renaissance'. (100 years)

          -A non-violent political movement of 'New Marxism' sweeps South America. It is met with brutal repression by the US backed juntas. The US is indirectly involved in the massive politcal suppression of subversives in the Americas for years. (Indefinite)

          -The Canadian political structure continues to decentralize. There is no more Canadian Army. Canadians and Australians become the most international people, with huge immigration and most of the population working in 'international' jobs.

          -This new cosmopolitanism leads to a rejuvenated UN. Faced with an intractable and hidebound US, the UN is radically reformed. The old 5 'Allies' no longer have veto powers, and there is a standing rapid reaction force under independent command. The USA withdraws from this new body.

          -Gradually, the New UN enables and assists undeveloped economies with increasing living standards, raising wages, and environmental regulations. This 'New Globalization' increases world prosperity. (200 years)

          -Eventually, under waves of immigration, social ferment, and generational change, the USA re-joins the world community as an enlightened liberal champion of freedom and human rights. Repudiating their past, the new US works closely with the world in international security issues. African chaos is finally reigned in. The world economy is liberalized everywhere, even the US no longer subsidizes its agricultural industry. This leads to a boom period in the third world.

          -Finally, after many abortive 'flags and footprints' missions over the past centuries, the new US leads the world in establishing a real permanent human colony in space. (300 years)

          -Then the AIs take over and confine us all to a Matrix like world. Humans live on only because their brains provide a source of cheap data processing and storage. In underground bunkers, the remnants of humanity loll in vats, having the pleasure centers of their brains continually stimulated artficially, we are the perfect slave population for the Godlike intelligences we created in out image. (1000 years. Maybe.)
          "Wait a minute..this isn''t FAUX dive, it's just a DIVE!"
          "...Mangy dog staggering about, looking vainly for a place to die."
          "sauna stories? There are no 'sauna stories'.. I mean.. sauna is sauna. You do by the laws of sauna." -P.

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          • #6
            My prefered scenario: AI's and nanotech come to fruition midway through the 21st century. Humans can either bootstrap themselves up, or get a hand up from the AIs, to similar levels of intelligence. We live in peace as gods forever and ever.

            My worse scenario: AI's and nanotech come to fruition midway through the 21st century. Humans can either bootstrap themselves up, or get a hand up from the AIs, to similar levels of intelligence. Ascension doesn't change basic human nature and the rest of time is spent in horrific wars between gods, fighting with nanotech and abilities beyond our understanding.

            My "I can live with this scenario": Technology doesn't advance as quickly as I'd like. Steady improvements push the average lifespan to past a century. This delays scenarios 1 and 2 for about 150 years.
            Exult in your existence, because that very process has blundered unwittingly on its own negation. Only a small, local negation, to be sure: only one species, and only a minority of that species; but there lies hope. [...] Stand tall, Bipedal Ape. The shark may outswim you, the cheetah outrun you, the swift outfly you, the capuchin outclimb you, the elephant outpower you, the redwood outlast you. But you have the biggest gifts of all: the gift of understanding the ruthlessly cruel process that gave us all existence [and the] gift of revulsion against its implications.
            -Richard Dawkins

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            • #7
              I think you overestimate our scientific abilities.

              I think major practical technical breakthroughs are revolutionary rather than evolutionary, so 'sci-fi' scenarios are probably not going to happen in nearby times, because we're just to damn satisfied and stable. And we lack a real frontier.

              I think we'll see the quality and speed of all forms of digital entertainment increase greatly in the near future.
              "Wait a minute..this isn''t FAUX dive, it's just a DIVE!"
              "...Mangy dog staggering about, looking vainly for a place to die."
              "sauna stories? There are no 'sauna stories'.. I mean.. sauna is sauna. You do by the laws of sauna." -P.

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              • #8
                Communication will increase exponentially, to the point where people will be able to communicate with each other through chips implanted in them.
                I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).

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                • #9
                  I see no one agrees with the "Clash of Civilizations" theory
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                  • #10
                    Technology doesn't "change" anything of importance -- human behavior is conditioned by instincts millions of years old and institutions thousands of years old.

                    10 years: Gradual overextension of US military as longterm commitments aggregate.

                    25 years: Mass migrations to cities in third world countries and fluid global capital results in spectacular successes and failures as various economic models are experimented with.

                    50 years: Huge, eduated Asian populations dominate world labor markets, causing "Western" economies to coalesce into a specialized high technology service provider. Weapons and medicines are principle outputs.

                    100 years: Too far out for any useful prediction. Let's try not to kill ourselves off.
                    It is much easier to be critical than to be correct. Benjamin Disraeli

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                    • #11
                      AIDS kills cripples economies of many sub-Saharan nations, US, China etc "recolonize" primarily seeking natural resources (20 years)

                      UN becomes more and more powerless as regional blocs strenghten (20 years)

                      China attacks Taiwan, US becomes more and more politically isolationist while continuing to expand its economic intervention in foreign nations (20 years)

                      Nuclear weapon is detonated somewhere, either in US or Europe by Muslim radicals... within 100 years the only place you'd find a Muslim is in a textbook (20 years)

                      India and Pakistan solve the world's overpopulation problems (20 years)

                      Russia finally acquires technology to drill for oil under the ice, unfortunately only an elite few benefit from this due to widespread corruption (20 years)

                      Aussies conquer the world (when pigs fly)
                      I'm 49% Apathetic, 23% Indifferent, 46% Redundant, 26% Repetative and 45% Mathetically Deficient.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Seeker
                        -Same thing in China, except that the old regime tries to distract them by attacking Taiwan....the young, underpaid Army revolts and China ends up joining Taiwan. The resulting New China gives quasi-independence to Tibet.
                        (50-100 years)


                        -Ireland unites. (30-40 years)
                        not a chance.

                        -South Africa rejuvenates in a new spirit of national racial reconcialiation and individual responisiblity. It comes to ressemble a European social democracy. Quaddafi dies, and Libya joins SA as the moral leaders of the newly regenerated OAS. Together, they battle lawlessness and corrupt despotism in Zimbabwe, Sudan, Egypt, and Congo. This leads to a new African 'renaissance'. (100 years)


                        (that was satire, right..?)
                        "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

                        "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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                        • #13
                          Aussies conquer the world (when pigs fly)
                          Coincidentally, the Australian Air Force's pride and joy, the F-111 bombers, are nicknamed 'pigs'
                          Last edited by Case; October 13, 2002, 08:50.
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                          • #14
                            Like an Aussie could be arsed to rule the world though - not worth the effort.
                            I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).

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                            • #15
                              Like an Aussie could be arsed to rule the world though - not worth the effort.
                              And if we ruled the world who would we have to thrash in sporting competitions?
                              'Arguing with anonymous strangers on the internet is a sucker's game because they almost always turn out to be - or to be indistinguishable from - self-righteous sixteen year olds possessing infinite amounts of free time.'
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