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  • #61
    jimmytrick is correct, there is a disconnect on what PC means.

    To liberals PCism is simple courtesy, not calling people things they don't want to be called, rescuing the history of the powerless, examining the art of other cultures, etc. There is a lot of truth to this.

    To conservatives, PCism is thought control, erasing the history of white men, dengrating white men, etc. There is just enough truth to this to make it a valid concern.

    The fact is, with any movement, PCism is going to have those people who go overboard, take things to their extreme, etc. Conservatives certainly don't like it when they are compared to Hitler, just because Hitler was a conservative. Neither should they then tar all feminists as being like Catherine McKinnon or Andrea Dworkin. The movement is vast, and as with most things, most people tend to fall in the middle and not in the extremes.

    jimmytrick vividly illustrates the reality that many Black people had to live with, and some still did even twenty years ago (and may still today). I'm certain most people didn't know that people in the US still lived like that up into the 1980s.

    Guess what jimmytrick, you did something "PC." You wrote about some of the ugly truths about America, you talked about the life experiences of someone outside the white comunity. There are people who even today deny that the effects of racism were ever really that bad.

    Yeah, some of the stuff is silly, like saying that the aient Egyptians were really Black people when all the evidence suggests otherwise. Talking about the Tulsa race riot or the history of Gay people or the experiences of women in America isn't silly. Not calling someone a n***** is just simple decency, and yet most people just don't seem to get it. Somehow it's a denial of their rights if you get on someone's case about it.
    Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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    • #62
      I think most interesting is the term used to describe a first-year college student.

      You can call a man a "freshman" and it won't make any misunderstandings.

      If you call a woman a "freshwoman" it often gives the wrong impression.
      "lol internet" ~ AAHZ

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      • #63
        chegitz guevara

        "Conservatives certainly don't like it when they are compared to Hitler, just because Hitler was a conservative."

        How do you mean that Hitler was a conservative? In my oppinion he was a totalitarian just like Stalin. I would hardly call conservatives totalitarians.
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        • #64


          I should have known that some Apolytoners would use sparodic extreme examples of abuse by PC extremists and distort the meaning of moderate political correctness.


          Got another question -- how would men like it if all of the professional occupation titles were ended with the word women?
          How would a male police officer like it to be called a policewoman?
          How would a male chairperson like it to be called a chairwoman?

          How can you not see the sexism that is perpetuated by gender-ending occupation titles that assume that only men have such occupations?

          Extreme PC people will jump on you and call you an anti-Semite if you're a sympathizer of Palestinians.
          I will not do that, since there are both sides to the Middle East issue, even though I sympathize with Israel more.

          Do not distort moderate political correctness with extreme abuse by less-than intelligent people.
          A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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          • #65
            This thread reminds me of the typical left wing waco university that had a big discussion about a class "picnic". Some blacks said that the word came from some type of racial stereotype so they changed the event to an "outing". This offended the gays so I think they ended up not naming the event anything so that no one would be offended. Of course "event" has something to do with the oppression of women and leaving the title blank offends the air heads...

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            • #66
              The word "man" Fun refers to both sexes. You might want to check your dictionary. To refer to mankind as "womankind" is absurd and to call a chairman a "chairwoman" when refering to both sexes is likewise absurd. How would I feel? I would feel like the world has gone mad.

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              • #67
                By the way, when scientists and others refer to "early man" are they talking about only males? Yes__ No__.

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                • #68
                  double post, sorry
                  To us, it is the BEAST.

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                  • #69
                    If someone doesn't like the use of a word, its only polite to use another word in its place. Seriously, how much effort is required to be PC? I now use BCE and CE instead of BC and AD.

                    But really folks, is anyone surprised that the people against PC are selfish right wingers? The same people that would rather kill a thousand Iraqis than pay ten cents more for gas... The same people that won't change two words in the pledge (that weren't even there in the first place) because it goes against my religious beliefs... The same people that will bomb a war-torn country into submission, then run away and claim "we're not into nation building" (Afghanistan)...
                    To us, it is the BEAST.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Lincoln
                      By the way, when scientists and others refer to "early man" are they talking about only males? Yes__ No__.
                      True, but most of them do so not consciously. That's how messed up our society is. This male dominance is drilled into our minds at a young age. Plus, many scientists uses terms like "early humans", "early homo sapiens" now.

                      Changing this crap takes time and a conscious effort. But it's the right thing to do.
                      To us, it is the BEAST.

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                      • #71
                        Does anybody else think that "Racist" is the new "N*gger"

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                        • #72


                          Glad we don't have this nonsense in Wales.
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                          • #73
                            Don't worry Boddington, your region will catch up to the rest of the world soon enough.
                            To us, it is the BEAST.

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                            • #74
                              Welcome into the sissi world ...
                              Zobo Ze Warrior
                              --
                              Your brain is your worst enemy!

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                              • #75
                                There is a big difference between being PC and being tactful. To me political correctness is when someone's character is questioned simply because something they said could possibly be interpreted as offensive, even if the intent was not to offend. Political correctness also dictates that if you think differently about certain issues than most PC people, you must be evil.

                                Political correctness says that its better not to discuss something than risk offending someone.
                                ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
                                ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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