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**Wraith** · September 22, 2002, 19:53

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Wraith
"Anta baka!"
-- Asuka ("Neon Genesis Evangelion")

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**devilmunchkin** · September 22, 2002, 20:18

NOt big on ANime as a whole..but i VERY much like the show Hellsing and the movie Vampire Hunter D (which is probably like bread and butter to the anime community)...

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**DaShi** · September 22, 2002, 20:31

Bah! Tenchi sucked after the first series.

**Wraith** · September 22, 2002, 20:47

--"but i VERY much like the show Hellsing and the movie Vampire Hunter D"

Hellsing hasn't impressed me any, but Vampire Hunter D is pretty decent. You might want to check out Vampire Princess Miyu, at least the OVA. Very good. The TV series isn't as interesting.

You might also want to keep an eye out for Master of Mosquiton. ADV is putting all their back-catalog stuff on DVD, but it's taking time, so don't expect to see this one on DVD soon.

You know, you might also be interested in Shamanic Princess. No vampires, but it's a good OVA with a dark setting, some romance, and magic.

--"Bah! Tenchi sucked after the first series"

Which first series do you mean? The first OVA series, or the first two? I do agree that the two (now three) TV series after it were downgrades, but the Pretty Sammy spin-offs are moderately amusing.
Also, the Mihoshi Special is from inbetween the first two OVA series, so you might actually be interested in that one.
Tenchi GXP isn't worth mentioning more than I have already, but they are working on a third OVA series to finish off the Goddess storylines.

Wraith
"Could you stop eating my gun?"
-- Mihoshi ("Tenchi Muyo")

**Apocalypse** · September 22, 2002, 22:53

I'm getting EoE on Tuesday probably. Might not be able to watch it until Friday though. Saturday I get to watch it on a nice projector screen.

I'm currently borrowing Escaflowne. I've watched the first 20 episodes so far. I honestly can't see what most people like about this series. It is alright, but I guess I am missing something. Maybe if a few of the characters weren't so annoying I would enjoy the series.

In a few weeks I'll also borrow that one mecha series that starts with a G (not Gundam). The other one.

**ixnay** · September 22, 2002, 23:03

I'll probably pick up EoE sometime in the next couple of weeks.

I managed to find someone on the college network sharing Puni Puni Poemi, and though I didn't think it possible, it is indeed crazier than Excel Saga.

**loinburger** · September 22, 2002, 23:08

I'm still waiting to get some cash money before purchasing more anime. Stupid job market...

Saw a three-DVD set in Blockbuster (or maybe Hollywood Video) recently, called something like "Now and Then" or maybe "Before and After" (or maybe both). Anybody know what I'm talking about?

**ixnay** · September 23, 2002, 00:01

Probably "Now and Then, Here and There." Haven't seen it, but this is what my encyclopedia says:

Schoolboy Shu Matsutani climbs a chimney to rescue a girl he sees sitting at its summit, but he falls into an alternate wold. There, the damsel he tried to rescue is revealed as Lala Lu, the bearer of a magic pendant that can control the water element in this new world. The evil Hamdo needs Lala's pendant so that he can construct his fortress in a place called Hellywood - and now Shu isn't just visiting, he's the point man in a war against the forces of darkness. Despite a plot redolent of the comedy El Hazard, childish designs, and a sub-Miyazaki look, N&TH&T is a remarkably adult show that refuses to stint on images of violence and abuse. Shown on more forgiving satellite TV, this anime was compared to Alex Haley's epic Roots by screenwriter Kurata - a trifle optimistic from the man who wrote Battle Athletes

**Seeker** · September 23, 2002, 00:45

"it is indeed crazier than Excel Saga."

Impossible. Nothing is crazier than that hallucination.

**SnowFire** · September 23, 2002, 02:58

Hmph. I still insist that Laputa: Castle in the Sky, regardless if it's coming out, sucks. But I recently saw My Neighbor Totoro, and that was a fantastic, wonderful movie, so Miyazaki redeemed himself. I could easily say that it's one of the best movies I've ever seen, period.

Well, time for my random rambling mostly for my own benefit. Hmm... my roommate brought Excel Saga up this year, and the first 5 episodes were indeed great. Monty Python with more continuity, yay! (This has gone too far! Will you A) Scold her B)Hit Her C) Kill her .... "Brother? What are you doing?"). Can't wait to see the next 5, which my other roommate's girlfriend owns. The original roommate also brought up all of the first season of Ranma 1/2, which is good (only saw the first 10 episodes before, now I can see the rest, although currently we've only finished re-watching the first 4).

I was pleasantly surprised to find that I'll be able to watch Boogiepop Phatom, which Wraith recommened, after all (I figured I'd never get the chance). There are no less than 3 anime excos this year (it's really grown since my sophomore year! This isn't even counting the Anime Club!), with one of them showing Boogiepop Phantom as well as Brother, Dear Brother (straight, serious shoujo. Run before you throw up! I watched the first episode as a learning experience, and it burned my soul). So I just tune in for the 2 episiodes of BP they show before the 4 episodes of B,DB (when I'm gone). The first episode was kind of eh (main character too boring, too much time/scene switching, some stylistic issues), but it had promise, and the next 2 episodes have been a good bit better (none of Miss Suicidal girl! Yay!). It doesn't look like it'll be a personal favorite, but assuming they resolve the mystery well and make things interesting, I'll enjoy it. The other 2 excos are showing Rurouni Kenshin TV (which my roommate has assured me is a B-grade action series at best, and my little watching has ranked it far worse than even that. Of course, the OAV still rules), as well as Slayers. Luckily I've already seen Slayers (still the favorite anime series I've seen), so I won't feel too bad about having to most likely miss most of the showings of it (Thursday night, when homework is generally due on Friday).

Hmm, and ironically, I missed the Anime Club's first showing of Vampire Princess Miyu because... I was trying out Oberlin's Vampire LARP (As in the White Wolf RPG). Odd scheduling.

**Wraith** · September 23, 2002, 08:29

--"I'm currently borrowing Escaflowne."

Hmm. Which characters do you find annoying? None of them are really obnoxious to me.
As for what you're missing, come on. Steampunk mecha with capes! Psychics! Romance!

It's a good story. The whole struggling against fate thing. There are some really nice (and fairly unique) touches, like Dornkirk's backstory. Dilandou has to be one of the best psycho villans ever, and Folken is right up there too, only not psycho.
Awesome music, great pacing and story. I quite enjoy it, in case you didn't notice

Anyway, Anime on DVD has a bit of good info on it. I do agree that if you were expecting a more action-centric show, this would probably disapoint.

--"In a few weeks I'll also borrow that one mecha series that starts with a G"

I never did really get into Gasaraki. The pacing is way too slow, and the characters weren't all that interesting. Only got halfway throught the series and gave up, and I was watching it on free rental DVDs.

You might want to check into Armored Trooper Votoms. I've been watching this, and it's pretty interesting. A bit too much Stormtrooper Syndrome in a few scenes (so far it's only happened when the main character was outside the Votoms), but for the most part the combat is pretty decent. The rest of the story is why it's interesting, though.
Might be hard to find. It's out of production, and the DVDs are hard-subbed only, but they can be had pretty cheap if you can find them.

--"I managed to find someone on the college network sharing Puni Puni Poemi"

There's rumors of a third episode being produced...

--"Anybody know what I'm talking about?"

"Now and Then, Here and There". Another very good series. It's pretty dark. Quite dark, really. Ixnay's quote isn't a bad description, but it's incomplete. Shu ends up in the alternate world after he meets Lala Ru and she's attacked by the forces of Hellywood. He's impressed into Hamdo's army, which is inside the already complete mobile fortress Hellywood (so at first he's forcibly with them rather than opposing them). The only problem is that their propulsion system seems to require water, which is why Hamdo is after Lala Ru.
It's also not at all like El Hazard. The only point of similarity is that they both involve some sort of different or alternate world.

I do recommend the show, but consider that a large portion of the cast are kids (16 is on the old end for most of them) who have been forced to join the army and fight a war of rather aggressive conquest.
Hamdo is also about the most agressively insane and evil dictator you'll ever see. (Not overacting, there is a point to it.)

--"Impossible. Nothing is crazier than that hallucination."

Well, I did say FLCL is finally around. It's sort of LSD to Excel's crack-smoke.
But yes, Puni Puni Poemi is crazier. It was done by the Excel Saga team, who decided they hadn't pushed things far enough with Excel. Limits of a TV show, and all that. Poemi, being an OVA from the start, didn't have many restrictions.

--"But I recently saw My Neighbor Totoro,"

Dub or sub? I'll warn you that the one dub I've seen has a huge amount of difference from the direct translation. Lots of extra lines, for instance.

--"and the first 5 episodes were indeed great."

The next DVD isn't quite as good, but certainly not bad either. It does pick up again after that.

--"The original roommate also brought up all of the first season of Ranma 1/2,"

One of the best series openers. A red-hed girl in chinese clothing engaged in a martial arts battle with a giant panda through the streets. Good show, but after the first couple seasons it ends up focusing way more on the wacky martial arts angle than anything else.

--"It doesn't look like it'll be a personal favorite, but assuming they resolve the mystery well and make things interesting, I'll enjoy it."

There is resolution to this one, but you may need to watch it a couple more times to get everything.

--"Brother, Dear Brother"

Not just straight shoujo, but hardcore shoujo. It's not one of the big-name titles, but the Techno Girls fansub of it is catching a surprising amount of attention.

Wraith
"Why do they even live if they all die anyway?"
-- Moto Tonomura ("Boogiepop Phantom")

**Kassiopeia** · September 23, 2002, 08:38

Originally posted by Wraith
"Anta baka!"
-- Asuka ("Neon Genesis Evangelion")

Asuka says 'baka' 36 (+/- 1) times during the series. Yes, I counted.

**DaShi** · September 23, 2002, 09:04

Originally posted by Wraith

--"Bah! Tenchi sucked after the first series"

Which first series do you mean? The first OVA series, or the first two? I do agree that the two (now three) TV series after it were downgrades, but the Pretty Sammy spin-offs are moderately amusing.
Also, the Mihoshi Special is from inbetween the first two OVA series, so you might actually be interested in that one.
Tenchi GXP isn't worth mentioning more than I have already, but they are working on a third OVA series to finish off the Goddess storylines.

After a while all it was about was the feud between Ryoko and that other girl. Or Mihoshi screwing things up. I swear for at least 10 episodes in a row that was the only plot. Tenchi in Tokyo got better near the end though.

**Wraith** · September 23, 2002, 15:10

--"Asuka says 'baka' 36 (+/- 1) times during the series. Yes, I counted."

That's all? Not even twice for each episode she's in?

--"I swear for at least 10 episodes in a row"

Sounds like you were watching the TV series. It was released under the name "Tenchi Universe" in the US.
Simple test is whether or not Kiyone is in it (she was the redeeming feature of the series). If she was, you haven't seen the OVAs yet. I'd encourage you to, since the story there is a lot better than any of the following TV series were.

Wraith
"My money's on Mihoshi."
-- Washuu ("Tenchi Muyo")

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