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We all know how many battles were in WW2. The Battle of the Bulge, the Battle of Britain, D-Day, the list goes on.
But which was the most important?
But which was the most important?
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44Battle of Britain18.18%8Battle of Iwo Jima0.00%0Operation Overlord (a.k.a. D-Day)6.82%3Battle for Moscow11.36%5Battle of Stalingrad45.45%20Invasion of Italy0.00%0Battle of the Bulge4.55%2Pearl Harbor4.55%2El Alamein0.00%0Those other ones.9.09%4 -
The Battle of the Atlantic.(\__/)
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The Battle of the Atlantic.Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.
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Why no Midway?
I voted for Moscow but yes the Battle of the Atlantic was the most important but it wasn't really a single battle anymore than the Battle of Britain was.
How about Poland? Thats what turned it into a World War.Comment
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Midway would be a good single turning point unlike most of the other ones.
The Atlantic was more of a running brawl. You don't want to fight one, but once your in it you have to win.(\__/)
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I'm with notyoueither. Midway was the only single battle of WW2 that actually turned the tide of affairs. All the other battles named were merely the logical result of past events.'Arguing with anonymous strangers on the internet is a sucker's game because they almost always turn out to be - or to be indistinguishable from - self-righteous sixteen year olds possessing infinite amounts of free time.'
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Of those in the list, and from the German view, it is Stalingrad for me, which was the turning point against Russia. The Battle on England could have continued for years in the way it was. At D-Day, the war already was lost for Germany, only Hitler didn't realize that.
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I disagree with nye and case. To me a decisive battle is one that if the alternate outcome had occured would have had dire consequences for the new losers.
Lose Midway, and the US would still have had the ability to win the war, all be it taking longer.
Lose the battle of Britain, and you lose British war efforts, leading to no US involvement in Europe.
Lose the battle the Atlantic and you have no liberating invasion of Europe. The battle only possible due to vicotry in the Battle of Britain
Lose Stalingrad and you lose, for all intents and purposes, Russian effort in the war.
If the US involvement in WW2 was not so large, and the US position precarious (e.g threat of mainland invasion) then I would agree Midway was decisive. As it happens, it is not.
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stalingrad wouldn't have meant russia dropping out, they would have kept on fighting, at least to the urals where much of their war production took place, the germans wouldn't of had the men and material to advance much beyond stalingrad anyway."The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.
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The SU wouldn't have dropped out, but they would not have been the juggernaut of a fighting unit that they were when trampling down on Berlin in 1945.One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.Comment
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Exactly. But it was turning point for Germany. After defeat at Stalingrad their chances to win the war were very close to zero. After Kursk- 0.00%stalingrad wouldn't have meant russia dropping out, they would have kept on fighting, at least to the urals where much of their war production took place, the germans wouldn't of had the men and material to advance much beyond stalingrad anyway.Comment
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What a stupid list.
The decisive battle of the war against Japan was Midway. The Japanese navy never recovered.
The decisive battle of the war in Europe was Kursk. The German army never recovered.Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..
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The Japanese never stood a chance once the US got involved. So my vote is Pearl Harbour, in the sense that it started the US in WWII with the end rather inevitable for the Axis.
On the Eastern Front Moscow is more decisive.(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
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Kursk sank
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I'd rank them as...
Kursk
Stalingrad
Midway
Alamein.
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