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Originally posted by DanS "Former Soviet minister can't be uncle Sam's whore."
He has to be Russia's?
Of course. It's we who feed them, not you are. The one who is paying, is ordering the music. (Russian saying). He shouldn't be our whore. All we want is a bit more respect. This guy is constantly whined for our money, everyday he spends a lot of OUR money, and at the same moment he spit on us. Is it fair?
Cutting off fruit imports would also rob Russia of a cheap and good source for fruits.
We have a lot of other cheap sources of fruits, so there is no tragedy t all. Georgia it isn't a single source of fruits for us. And anyhow, we easily could survive without their fruits, they couldn't survive we will stop buying. They don't have other sources for their budget. Export of fruits to Russia is their only source of money. And they can't export their oranges to USA it's unprofitable for them.
As for cutting off the oil/gas/electricity, do you have a figure for how much they use without compensation?
I'm not an economist, and don't have exact figure, but I know that we selling those things to them at the half of the real price. But they often don’t pay even this reduced price. They owe a lot of $ to us.
Originally posted by Serb By robber, rape and killing your Russian Slavic Brother? Nice, really nice way to help.
YOU wanted it the hard way. Anyway You talk about Lisowczycy, and they were robbing anything they came across, no matter if it was Russia, Poland and Hungary.
They were barbarians (what can Russia do to people!) - but magnificent soldiers, too.
"I realise I hold the key to freedom,
I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs Middle East!
I think I've been developing a distaste for Russians because here in Si Heung we are nearly overrun by bleached-blond Russian prostitutes from the Russian Far East area.
They also have a large number of pimps and 'legitimate businessmen' who hang out in the brothels around An-San.
It's biased me a bit.
Also: Last Friday night at a new nightclub me and the other teachers were exploring a Russian gentleman came up to me and spoke fair English.
He was very friendly, and I'm naturally fairly friendly. He was buying me drinks. I'm Canadian and it's against our law to pass by a free beer. We (Wade, Stacey, + Me) were sitting at a table with very loud music, this dude was next to me. He was asking how old we are. Let me explain that I look quite a bit younger than my age, I'm 23. Wade is 29 but looks older.
The guy in his broken English asks me if Wade is my 'gentleman'.
I put it down to language barrier.
Later and drunker into the night, the guy comes back over and he, um, asks me if I want to dance....and puts his hand on my inner thigh.
Well I got out of there real quick, and this was in a club filled with Russian whores and 'businessmen'.
Anyway I guess the whole 'all the Russians I've met are either whores, criminals, or gay propositioned me' thing has unfairly soured me on the Russian people for a while.
"Wait a minute..this isn''t FAUX dive, it's just a DIVE!"
"...Mangy dog staggering about, looking vainly for a place to die."
"sauna stories? There are no 'sauna stories'.. I mean.. sauna is sauna. You do by the laws of sauna." -P.
"He was buying me drinks. I'm Canadian and it's against our law to pass by a free beer."
Cheap excuses. You lead the guy on and you expect us to be understanding? Sheesh!
I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891
Also: Last Friday night at a new nightclub me and the other teachers were exploring a Russian gentleman came up to me and spoke fair English.
The only reason why you have such "gentlemans" in Korea it's because they running from Russia. If this guy tried the same with me and my buddies in Siberian night club, he found big troubles for himself. Drunk Siberian male could be very agressive, especialy if he hear such offers from gay.
And don't tell me that Korea or Canda don't have their own whores.
WTF? It was we who attacked Poland? Perhaps, we asked you to invade us? to kill our people? to burn or cities?
Anyway You talk about Lisowczycy, and they were robbing anything they came across, no matter if it was Russia, Poland and Hungary.
They were barbarians (what can Russia do to people!) - but magnificent soldiers, too.
Lisovsky was Polish, his army consist of Poles. I don't know about 'magnificent soldiers', but they were barbarians for sure. Polish barbarians.
If this guy tried the same with me and my buddies in Siberian night club, he found big troubles for himself. Drunk Siberian male could be very agressive, especialy if he hear such offers form gay.
And you see beating up gay people as a good thing?
By the way, I'm interested if you can name one instance where you feel the Soviet Union or Czarist Russia was on the wrong side of a war.
And you see beating up gay people as a good thing?
You aren't a gay David, aren't you?
Actually no. I never beat gay people by myself, because I never saw a real, alive gay. (Sure I saw a couple of suspicious guys, who talked like gays and were dressed like gay, wearing scarfs f.e.).
But, drunk fights for us it's like national sport. We like to kick someone ass/have our asses kicked by someone when we drunk. It's old Russian tradition Gay's offer for any normal man is consider as deadly insult, and of course a good reason for fight. I'm not anti-gay, as long as they drink in their gay-clubs and don't tuch straight mans I'm absolutely neutral towards them.
By the way, I'm interested if you can name one instance where you feel the Soviet Union or Czarist Russia was on the wrong side of a war.
It's really hard task David,but I'll try... Afghanistan, we shouldn't have been there and perhaps Winter war, nothing else comes to mind. Perhaps you will help me?
You certainly shouldn't have fought World War 1. The Winter War was also very wrong. Afghanistan, of course, as well as the invasions of Hungary and Czechoslovakia to put down the democratic revolutions.
Actually, the interesting thing is that in modern history, it's far easier to find wars the US shouldn't have been involved in than those Russia shouldn't have been involved in, in my opinion.
But I've never denied that, I was just curious if you were one who believed the saying "My country, right or wrong".
Perhaps, this war bring only misery to us and rise of bolshevicks. BUT we can't stay out of this war. Serbia was under attack. We must have been protect our Slavic brothers.
The Winter War was also very wrong. Afghanistan, of course, as well as the invasions of Hungary and Czechoslovakia to put down the democratic revolutions.
Of course, but hardly you could call a Hungary or Czechoslavakia a war. The millitarty intervention is more proper words, as for me. The same interventions that USA done in Latin America to put down socialistic revolutions
Oh, and I forget about Poland it was wrong too.
Actually, the interesting thing is that in modern history, it's far easier to find wars the US shouldn't have been involved in than those Russia shouldn't have been involved in, in my opinion.
Of course. You doing all wrong.
But I've never denied that, I was just curious if you were one who believed the saying "My country, right or wrong".
I wish I could, but unfortunately sometimes it means to deny truth.
WTF? It was we who attacked Poland? Perhaps, we asked you to invade us? to kill our people? to burn or cities?
Lisovsky was Polish, his army consist of Poles. I don't know about 'magnificent soldiers', but they were barbarians for sure. Polish barbarians.
Yes, your tzar Bemetrios asked us for an intervention.
Our parliament didn't want it, so eventually You were beaten up by several of our (not that important)landlords. Pathethic
Barbarians? Uh uh, they weren't legal Polish army, and
supposedly recruited of Byelorussia and Ukraine...
Of course Byelorussian and Ukranina gentry became Polish, still they were spoiled by an outrageous example from behind the eastern border...
You could teach Attila...
"I realise I hold the key to freedom,
I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs Middle East!
Perhaps, this war bring only misery to us and rise of bolshevicks. BUT we can't stay out of this war. Serbia was under attack. We must have been protect our Slavic brothers.
You didn't have to bring on the war by pushing Serbia to reject Austria's demands.
Of course, but hardly you could call a Hungary or Czechoslavakia a war. The millitarty intervention is more proper words, as for me. The same interventions that USA done in Latin America to put down socialistic revolutions
Again, certainly, and both sides were wrong. I have no problem admitting as much
Yes, your tzar Bemetrios asked us for an intervention.
Our parliament didn't want it, so eventually You were beaten up by several of our (not that important)landlords. Pathethic
Bullsh*t. OUR tzar was dead and he has no heirs. Thats why it called Weilka smuta or 'chaos times'. We had no leadership. Russia was out of control. Dmitry was your fake. And there is no much honor to kill civilians, when Russians get their crap together and realized that it is time to kick some Polish butts untill it's to late you were crushed.
You could teach Attila...
Did Attila boiled his prisoners alive like Lisovsky done when he invaded Russia?
By robber, rape and killing your Russian Slavic Brother? Nice, really nice way to help.
My condolences for his students.
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