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  • #46
    Originally posted by atawa
    I totaly agree with that, but there is a big difference between encouraging something and banning it.
    Well.. by banning one thing you encourage other things, right?
    Harsh punishment for breaking these bans should discourage usage as well. Zero tolerance for addiction etc..

    Yes I'm aware, I sometimes become too much of a visionaire
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    • #47
      --"I'm a bit surprised by the amount of people here... that even want things like alcohol, tobacco and caffeine to be illegal."

      Okay, the title says King, but how long have you been in the Off Topic forum? I'm surprised that anyone could be surprised by this

      --"At the minimum, all natural drugs should be legal."

      Define "natural" please.

      --"But too many young people are ignorant about too many drugs."

      You can drop the "about too many drugs" from this statement and still be perfectly correct. Guess who's doing the teaching?

      --"if with one pill you can take your car and smash some inocent inconspicious pedestrian walking by then..."

      Driving under the influence (of almost anything on the list) is already illegal, and doesn't stop it from happening. This is a crime to be punished, just like other crimes.
      Unless you want to start locking people up because they might do something, or banning everything down to knives and pencils because they might be used to hurt someone.

      --"Might as well ban sugar too then."

      This is a reply more to the one you're repling to than to you, but I can't let this line pass up unused...

      Daria: Raisins?
      Tad: Raisins are nature's candy.
      Daria: Then why do they have to cover them with chocolate to sell them at the movies?
      Tricia: Sugar is bad.
      Tad: Sugar rots your teeth.
      Tricia: Sugar makes you hyper.
      Tad: Hitler ate sugar.
      -- Daria ("Pinch Sitter")

      --"Yes I'm aware, I sometimes become too much of a visionaire"

      That's not the word I'd use for it. Dictator, perhaps. Idiot would fit. Overbearing yahoo. Sanctimonious jerk. I'm sure you get the idea.
      I just have this problem with people who are so convinced that they know what's best for everyone else, and have the attitude that by damn everyone is going to like it or else.

      Wraith
      "In the face of your complete lack of redeeming social value, you are hereby declared obscene."
      -- George Willard

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      • #48
        Drug prohibition has failed dismally.

        Illicit drugs should be controlled in the same way as tobacco and alcohol or prescription medications are controlled.

        If one of my children developed a drug problem I would like them to be treated as someone with an illness, not a criminal.

        If you look at the evidence, alcohol and tobacco are just as bad heroin and cocaine but society tolerates those drugs and manages alcohol and tobacco addictions differently i.e. medically.

        The only reason drugs were banned is because of puritannical Christians. The same people who brought prohibition to America.
        Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

        Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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        • #49
          I'd ban acetycoline, but that's only because of it's source.
          Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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          • #50
            all drugs should be illegal. Alcohol, tobacco, marijuana, heroin, cocaine.

            ....and while i'm on this, the monopoly's of drug companies should be illegal too.
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            • #51
              Originally posted by ADG
              Whe'res the "all of the above" option?
              Even the Bannana option?
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              • #52
                Originally posted by Wraith
                --"At the minimum, all natural drugs should be legal."

                Define "natural" please.
                My guess is drugs that don't require chemical changes to **** you up. Like mushrooms and marijuana. Of course, all drugs should be legal, but I think that this is a fair enough compromise I'm willing to make with people.

                A government that thinks it can outlaw species of plants and fungus is out of control.
                John Brown did nothing wrong.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Felch X
                  A government that thinks it can outlaw species of plants and fungus is out of control.
                  The government has been out of control since the Great Depression, but what the hell. We wuv you, FDR!!
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Wraith

                    Okay, the title says King, but how long have you been in the Off Topic forum? I'm surprised that anyone could be surprised by this
                    Ages, although I don't really spend a lot of time online... And sometimes I have too much faith in the common sense of humanity, I guess.

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                    • #55
                      Outlaw them all except for caffeine, chaw, snuff, and toad licking. These 4 only harm the user. Tobacco harms others through passive inhalation, the others impair cognitive abilities, reflexes, perseption and judgement, there by making the user dangerous to others around him.
                      "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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                      • #56
                        --"the others impair cognitive abilities, reflexes, perseption and judgement, there by making the user dangerous to others around him."

                        Sounds like you'd suggest we should outlaw morons, klutzs, blind people, and gullible people too

                        Wraith
                        "Sounds like you’ve been snacking on some of the local mushrooms."
                        -- Albert ("Twin Peaks")

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by C0ckney
                          Paiktis, If people commit crimes while on drugs or drive whilst under the influence then they should be punished for that, rather than punishing them for just using drugs..
                          You can argue that taking the drug itself is a punishable offence since you knew that after you have taken it you'd be... out of character, shall we say?

                          The same goes for alcohol too but at least on that regard it is something that has been around in society for a long time and its effects have been already assessed (drinking in succession is needed to reach **** face drunkeness contrary with a pill where you get the effect immidiatly etc) and tolerated.

                          I have not a unmovable position on the subject of which drugs should be legalized and who should not. I just would prefer that they are not legalized and at the same time the drug users not getting in trouble for using them, additional trouble that is. Except of course if they have done something other which is criminal.

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                          • #58
                            Acetycoline is natural, but you shouldn't touch the stugg. Report anyone selling it to the cops.
                            Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                            • #59
                              We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a saltshaker half-full of cocaine, and a whole galaxy of uppers, downers, laughers, screamers... Also, a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether, and two dozen amyls. Not that we needed all that for the trip, but once you get into a serious drug collection, the tendency is to push it as far as you can. The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge, and I knew we'd get into that rotten stuff pretty soon.
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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Wraith
                                --"the others impair cognitive abilities, reflexes, perseption and judgement, there by making the user dangerous to others around him."

                                Sounds like you'd suggest we should outlaw morons, klutzs, blind people, and gullible people too

                                Wraith
                                "Sounds like you’ve been snacking on some of the local mushrooms."
                                -- Albert ("Twin Peaks")
                                There are already a host of things that the mentally retarded, mentally ill, blind and neurologically impaired can not do. If their diseases are severe enough to impair their abilities to function they're already living in a prison of sorts. thank you for recognizing this state of affairs.
                                "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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