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  • #76
    Low toxins, not "no."
    Tutto nel mondo è burla

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    • #77
      Well, yeah, low. There's toxins everywhere in the world, I meant no significant.
      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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      • #78
        I was expecting this thread to be a giant troll... so I'm not disappointed. Even if off-topic, a troll is a troll.
        "I'm a guy - I take everything seriously except other people's emotions"

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        • #79
          The aliens that are studying our planet are laughing at us.

          If our souls are independent entities of our bodies that move on to another level of existence without bodies, homosexuality... sexuality in general would be irrelevant. Love is the emotion that the soul experiences. And in many relationships, hetero and homosexual, the love is more than just the physical, sexual attraction. I fail to see how an expression of love, whether it be two men, two women, two hermaphrodites, or the standard man-woman, could be wrong.
          To us, it is the BEAST.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Boris Godunov


            Yes, because by default more gays will be born in urban areas due to the greater population, and urban areas have greater concentrations of pollution than rural areas.

            It wouldn't prove anything.
            Is that really true? Buenos Aires must be an exception... because this country severely neglects the GLBT minority. 14 million people and there is not one gay part of town. Or does that reasoning only follow for the US and some countries in Europe? Clarify please.
            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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            • #81
              Buenos Aires isn't exactly gay friendly, most gays are obviously in the closet.
              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Asher
                Buenos Aires isn't exactly gay friendly, most gays are obviously in the closet.
                Well then extremely so. Because "public decency" laws last time I checked were fully enforced.

                I posted a link to a human rights report explaining this.

                Anyways... Ecuador, another country I lived in had the army which harassed and tortured the GLBT population. When I was there soliders were on every two blocks... the country has gotten better but the situation towards gay has worsened.

                Damn why do I live in these countries!
                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Fez


                  Is that really true? Buenos Aires must be an exception... because this country severely neglects the GLBT minority. 14 million people and there is not one gay part of town. Or does that reasoning only follow for the US and some countries in Europe? Clarify please.
                  Whether or not a city is friendly towards gays or not will have no bearing on the number of gays born in that city. If it is extremely unfriendly, then adult gays may leave the city, but we're talking place of birth, not place of residence.

                  I think you exaggerate a little about the city. A quick search resulted in these gay locales:

                  Bars
                  Bar Alvear Marcelo T de Alvear 1461. Tel: 4816-9227. Pub/Restaurant/Pre-disco bar.
                  Bach Bar J A Cabrera 4390. Open Tuesday - Sunday from 11pm.
                  BUCARO (After hours) - Av.Córdoba 2621/ opens at 5:00AM to 1:00PM. Tel: 4962-4145. The popular pub transforms in an after hour party for those that don’t want to go home.
                  Cotton Club Cabrera 2929. Tel: 4691-1706.
                  Gayshas Ave. Cordova 4042. Open Wednesday thru Sunday 7-10pm. Saturday from 10p.
                  In Vitro by Legrand Azcuenaga 1007. Tel: 4824-0932. Open daily from 11pm.
                  Locasmanias Scalabrini Ortiz 542. Tel: 4858-3063. Open Wednesday - Sunday from 10p. Pub and pre-disco bar.
                  Sitges Ave Cordova 4119. Tel: 4861-3763. Open Thursday thru Sunday from 10:30pm.
                  Tacla Ave de Mayo 1114. Tel: 4381-8764. Open daily at 6pm.
                  Discos
                  Amerika - Gascón 1040. Tel: 4865-4416. Amerika Very mixed, has a dark room open only on gay only night: Saturday. Has two dance floors, main one with house music the other one with Latin music. Two bars.
                  Angel's - Viamonte 2168 Thursday to Sunday. Opens at midnight. Two dance floors and two bars.
                  Confusion - Drag Queen Disco. Scalabrini Ortiz 1721.
                  Contramano - Rodriguez Peña 1082. Contramano. Wednesday to Sunday. Opens at midnight. The oldest disco in Buenos Aires. Two bars and one dance floor with disco and Latin music.
                  Glam Disco Pub - Cabrera 3046. Has one dance floor, two bars a pool table a dark room and a patio. Great in summertime. Bears meet here on Sundays from 7:00 PM to 11:00 PM.
                  Moloko Disco Ave 13 and Calle 34, La Plata (see website for directions).
                  Oxen - Sarmiento 1662. Sarmiento 1662. Nexo. Friday and Saturday. Opens at midnight. Managed by Revista NX, it has one dance floor, three bars and shows. Music is varied, from disco to Latin to slow dances.
                  Palacio Buenos Aires - Alsina 934. Friday and Sunday Tea dance only. In an impressive building, this disco has five bars and one dance floor. Music is disco and house. Great tea dance Sundays from 7:00. Some sex happens in the bathrooms.
                  Punto G Club Anchorena 1347, Buenos Aires. Tel: 4829-0664. Opens daily at 11:00pm.
                  Unna formerly ADN - Suipacha 924 Local 4. Friday and Saturday. Opens at 1:00 The only Lesbian disco in Buenos Aires. Mixed men and women - heavy on the women.
                  Tutto nel mondo è burla

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                  • #84
                    Unna formerly ADN - Suipacha 924 Local 4. Friday and Saturday. Opens at 1:00 The only Lesbian disco in Buenos Aires. Mixed men and women - heavy on the women.
                    Sounds like a great place to have a wedding
                    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                    • #85
                      The police conduct raids all the time... there are public decency laws... and I been to every part of this city. Puerto Madero, Olivos, etc. And I have yet to see a gay couple or a gay club.

                      If that is true then less than 3% of this country is GLBT.

                      I mean Argentina tolerant... no way... not possible... not this damn country.
                      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                      • #86
                        I have two friends who were just in Buenos Aries a few months ago, they went to many gay clubs.
                        Tutto nel mondo è burla

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                        • #87
                          Paramilitary groups have become more visible in their self-styled morality campaigns to "clean the streets" of "disposable" sectors of the population, including gays and lesbians as well as transvestites, transsexuals, male prostitutes, street children and other social "undesirables." Systematic, accurate documentation in recent years by gay-rights groups has highlighted the scope of the problem--and has provided a basis for local organizations to develop alliances with like-minded organizations in their cities and in other regions and countries.

                          Only a few countries, including Nicaragua, Ecuador and Chile, have laws which criminalize homosexual practices. In some cases, these laws have existed for decades, but in others, new anti-gay laws or legal campaigns have emerged. In Nicaragua, for example, the conservative government of Violeta Chamorro passed an anti-sodomy law in 1992 which
                          mandates prison sentences of up to three years for "anyone who induces, promotes, propagandizes or practices in scandalous form sexual intercoure between persons of the same sex." Such legislation serves as "a constant threat," according to a recent report by the Inter-Church Committee on Human Rights in Latin America, "allowing the police to intimidate, abuse and extort lesbians, gays and transvestites." And in Guadalajara, Mexico, although no national law criminalizes homosexuality, the governing right-
                          wing National Action Party (PAN) passed a local ordinance last December which outlaws "abnormal sexual behavior." The origins of the ordinance date back several decades, but this new version has received public attention because it renews the legal power of the local police to arrest homosexuals, and it makes extra-legal police practices like extortion more
                          likely to occur.

                          Elsewhere in Latin America, existing laws designed to uphold "public morality" are being applied with renewed vigor against sexual minorities. For example, police in Peru have used laws against prostitution to arrest transvestites and male sex workers. Last January, under the guise of a campaign to crack down on prostitution known as "Operation Thunder,"
                          Peruvian police detained over 300 people in a series of raids on gay nightclubs.

                          A similar wave of police raids of gay and lesbian bars and nightclubs threatened Argentine sexual minorities in 1995 and 1996. While no law in Argentina specifically criminalizes homosexuality, the police have resorted to a number of other legal instruments to harass individuals they consider "dangerous." For example, police edicts, which are not laws as such, but regulations set in place nearly 50 years ago,
                          and applied at the discretion of the Argentine police, have been used extensively to harass sexual minorities
                          . The "Edict Against Public Scandals," which punishes those "who disturb with flirtatious remarks" and prohibits "public exhibition of
                          persons wearing or disguised with clothes of the opposite gender," has been used to arrest gay men, lesbians and transvestites. The "Edict Against Public Dancing" punishes any proprietor who "allows men to dance together." Individuals arrested under these edicts have been held by police for up to 30 days and fined. The Buenos Aires group, Gays for Civil Rights (Gays D. C.), says that it documented 331 complaints of arrest under the edicts in 1995--twice the number of complaints documented over the two-year period
                          between September, 1992 and September, 1994. More than 50 transvestites and transsexuals were arrested every night in Buenos Aires in 1995 and the first half of 1996, according to the International Gay and Lesbian Human Rights Commission (IGLHRC), a non-profit organization based in San Francisco. In a single sweep last February, 160 people were arrested under the charges of cross-dressing and prostitution.
                          So tolerance in this country is nonexistent.

                          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Fez
                            So tolerance in this country is nonexistent.
                            Now, now, let's not exaggerate:

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                            And that's from 4 years ago. Clearly things are improving in the area, and tolerance is growing.
                            Tutto nel mondo è burla

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                            • #89
                              As has already been mentioned, homosexuals have been in existence since the dawn of humans.

                              What was the level of toxic pollution in the prehistoric era of humankind?

                              What was the level of toxic pollution in the ancient era of humankind?

                              I rest my case -- toxins are unrelated.
                              A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                              • #90
                                Hey, you're all clearly wrong. After all, wasn't Sparta one of the MOST HEAVILY POLLUTED greek cities ever? Geez!!
                                -connorkimbro
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