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  • #61
    Originally posted by MrFun
    Imran, yet, conservatives are the ones who advocate preserving the anachronistic sodomy laws.
    MrFun. Neither conservative nor right-wing implies society should ignore crimes. For instance, murder.

    The problem comes when you attempt to expand 'crimes' beyond the basics that we have all agreed on for millenia.

    Just because some religious groups encourage 'conservative' politicians to oppose all things gay, does not mean all right wingers share those views.

    Just as the fact that some on the left encourag[ing] the lining up of the upper classes against the wall does not define all left wingers.
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    • #62
      Imran, what would the difference be between a conservative and a right wing??


      Um... plenty. That is like saying what is the difference between a socialist and a left wing! Just because one is part of another doesn't mean that the other is the part of the other.
      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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      • #63
        Originally posted by notyoueither


        MrFun. Neither conservative nor right-wing implies society should ignore crimes. For instance, murder.

        The problem comes when you attempt to expand 'crimes' beyond the basics that we have all agreed on for millenia.

        Just because some religious groups encourage 'conservative' politicians to oppose all things gay, does not mean all right wingers share those views.

        Just as the fact that some on the left encourag[ing] the lining up of the upper classes against the wall does not define all left wingers.
        Then explain to me why conservatives have failed to repeal the sodomy laws if this is only advocated by only the extreme right-wingers.

        And I need to start qualifying my statements with "some" or "many" conservatives. You're assuming that I mean to apply my statements to all conservatives, when that is not my intention.

        And Imran, I think I understand what you're saying.
        A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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        • #64
          Mr Fun, for example, I don't think you could call Colin Powell a conservative. But he is on the right wing. Conservatives are one portion of the right wing.
          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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          • #65
            You're joking right??

            I have never heard of a liberal who is a Republican.
            Can you explain to me how Powell can be a liberal and a Republican at the same time??

            I mean, if you say that he cannot be called a conservative, then you're saying that he is a liberal, and follows the Republican party.

            And what liberals belong to the right wing??
            A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by MrFun
              I have never heard of a liberal who is a Republican.
              Then you weren't in Massachusetts in the '60s and '70s. One of that state's senators during that time was a liberal Republican named Ed Brooke.
              "THE" plus "IRS" makes "THEIRS". Coincidence? I think not.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by MrFun
                You're joking right??

                I have never heard of a liberal who is a Republican.
                Can you explain to me how Powell can be a liberal and a Republican at the same time??

                I mean, if you say that he cannot be called a conservative, then you're saying that he is a liberal, and follows the Republican party.

                And what liberals belong to the right wing??
                Actually, to be fair the UK Conservative Party does include right-liberals (those who prefer a minimalist state in all areas (it's just a shame the right-authoritarian crack-pots are in charge).

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                • #68
                  The Tory party will official fracture when the Euro campaign begins in earnest, don't worry.

                  A benefit of crackpots being in charge is that the Tories will never get back into power. A disadvantage is that we are doomed to a one party state.
                  One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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                  • #69
                    Unfortunately the one-arty state is merely the lesser of two evils

                    Oh, call me slow but I just got your flag

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                    • #70
                      Slow.
                      One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by MrFun
                        Imran, yet, conservatives are the ones who advocate preserving the anachronistic sodomy laws.
                        Maybe that's because Sodomy is unnatural.


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                        Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by paiktis22
                          Well I'm certaintly not right wing and will propably not convert even if faced with threats of castration.

                          But from my experience I can tell you why some people support it. They fall into two categories.

                          _The ones who actually believe that it is the best political system for society. These are just the poor deluded sods who can be saved.

                          _The ones who are rich and without conscience. These are the conscious and self serving supporters of the right wing (which represents the power of conservatism - the sustainment of the present order which benefits them in the expence of other's people's lives) and there is no saving for them. These are to be beheaded.



                          That's all
                          The former are often brainwashed by the latter.

                          Other than that, yer right on paiktis.
                          To us, it is the BEAST.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Sava


                            The former are often brainwashed by the latter.

                            Other than that, yer right on paiktis.
                            I better get my boots on....the B.S. is getting pretty deep in here.
                            Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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                            • #74
                              Well I believe that right wing economics do make the most wealth for society. I think that left social policies are the only way to prevent rich-poor divides.

                              Any government that mixes right wing economics with centrist/left social aims in a coherent fashion will probably win my vote. The trick is to get the two objectives to tie in with each other.
                              One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Lonestar


                                Maybe that's because Sodomy is unnatural.


                                :: ducks and Runs ::
                                It's so nice to watch amateurs take a shot at trolling.
                                A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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