Why do you support the right?

[Apocalypse]

Originally posted by red_jon
This is something I never get - the right say they don't want a big government, yet they think the government should be able to say what people should do with their own bodies?

These Zygotes don't get to choose what happens to their bodies.

Any you don't see the right trying to leavy large taxes on things like fast food. The left is far more controlling of what people do to their bodies.

[red_jon]

Originally posted by Apocalypse

These Zygotes don't get to choose what happens to their bodies.

Any you don't see the right trying to leavy large taxes on things like fast food. The left is far more controlling of what people do to their bodies.

So the right doesn't tell you who you can have sex with? When you should have a child? If you should take marijuana in the comfort of your own home?

[Lincoln]

I don't know if I am a full fledged right winger or not. I do believe in encouraging the community as a whole as well as supporting individual rights. I don't think that the two are mutually exclusive.

[Apocalypse]

Originally posted by red_jon
So the right doesn't tell you who you can have sex with? When you should have a child? If you should take marijuana in the comfort of your own home?

I didn't say the right never infringes, just the left does more. You are right on the sex thing. I'm not sure what exactly you are talking about when you mention the child thing, since both the right and left like to restrict access to children but in different ways. Both the Republicans and the Democrats still want marijuana illegal while the extremist Green and Libertarian parties want it legal.

[red_jon]

Originally posted by Apocalypse

I didn't say the right never infringes, just the left does more. You are right on the sex thing. I'm not sure what exactly you are talking about when you mention the child thing, since both the right and left like to restrict access to children but in different ways. Both the Republicans and the Democrats still want marijuana illegal while the extremist Green and Libertarian parties want it legal.

To me the Democrats are on the right

I don't think major life decisions like sexuality and abortion compare to how much you pay for fast food though

[Apocalypse]

Originally posted by red_jon
To me the Democrats are on the right

I don't think major life decisions like sexuality and abortion compare to how much you pay for fast food though

That is because you are a British person. They are left in America. The Libertarians are right in America. Either way that doesn't work well. If you want to call Democrats right then we can also throw out any abortion argument.

Again, abortion is really only giving one of the people involved a choice. I'm not Christian or anything, just Buddhist. Give people a chance.

The whole limitation on sex is overrated. The only laws that are regularly enforced are about things like pedophilia and even those are enforced all the time.

Now on fast food and alcohol, those things are pretty heavily targetted by the left.

[Zulu Elephant]

Damn
Looks like Im going to have to moderate this thread to keep it on the question I was interested in

DONT let this descend into Democrats vs. Republicans
They are NOT an accurate model of the left/right debate. Just because they both think pot should be illegal doesnt mean that both the left and the right as a whole think it should be illegal.
Issues like that are nothing to do with with left vs/ right
AND lets NOT debate that and get off the subject

[red_jon]

Originally posted by Zulu Elephant
Damn
Looks like Im going to have to moderate this thread to keep it on the question I was interested in

DONT let this descend into Democrats vs. Republicans
They are NOT an accurate model of the left/right debate. Just because they both think pot should be illegal doesnt mean that both the left and the right as a whole think it should be illegal.
Issues like that are nothing to do with with left vs/ right
AND lets NOT debate that and get off the subject

This is Apolyton - there's no way it can't turn into a debate/screeching session

[Apocalypse]

Originally posted by Zulu Elephant
DONT let this descend into Democrats vs. Republicans

I am not trying to do Dems v. Reps. When I first mentioned them I grouped them together in a stance on one issue.

[*End Is Forever*]

Jon, the truth is that the authoritarian-left is just as large as the authoritarian-right. If you don't believe me, try walking into your local Working Men's Club in a pink shirt and announcing your sexuality.

[Bereta_Eder]

Well I'm certaintly not right wing and will propably not convert even if faced with threats of castration.

But from my experience I can tell you why some people support it. They fall into two categories.

_The ones who actually believe that it is the best political system for society. These are just the poor deluded sods who can be saved.

_The ones who are rich and without conscience. These are the conscious and self serving supporters of the right wing (which represents the power of conservatism - the sustainment of the present order which benefits them in the expence of other's people's lives) and there is no saving for them. These are to be beheaded.


That's all

[Apocalypse]

Originally posted by paiktis22
_The ones who are rich and without conscience. These are the conscious and self serving supporters of the right wing (which represents the power of conservatism - the sustainment of the present order which benefits them in the expence of other's people's lives) and there is no saving for them. These are to be beheaded.

There are many on the left without conciouses too. You make it seem like it is only the right with these types of people. The rich have given lots and lots of money to left candidates when looking out for their own interests. The left supported light rail in Houston is also a good example of the rich left using public money for their own gain.

[Zulu Elephant]

Lets just except that paiktis's post was trolling and STAY ON TOPIC

The "more efficient than the left" argument is still the only decent one I've heard - Although even that is offset by the fact that the left's investment in education may well increase efficiency and the left's increased social security may allow people to take more risks with the decisions in their jobs (no risk - no gain)

[Apocalypse]

Have you heard how much money is missing from the Department of Education though? Education is one of only two major issues I agree with the left one though, but I am pretty extreme left in my views on this topic. So much so that the Dems and Republicans are basically the same in position.

The left isn't handling Social Security very efficiently. SS shouldn't be taxed. Taxing taxes is silly.

[Kitschum]

I'll try to answer: I'm leaning Right because I'm scared of the Government and I want to contain it. I'm also scared of a static private sector: big corporations which won't eventually go down and, small ones which don't aspire to grow. I'll fight lethargy.

As for personal or moral issues I'm rather libertine. That said, I'm not overly fond of (Right) Libertarians and, I still sympathize with various Leftist ideas so I'm prolly not all that representative.

Cheers,