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  • #46
    I do not have any problems with what other cultures eat or do not or most other cultural differences. I am substantialy in the live and let live mode. I expect that the majority of people who make jokes about such difference do not have such problems. Differences in foriegn (to the joker or audience) cultures are common sources of humor. Such humor tends to fall flat in front of members of the pertinent cultures and defective PC liberals.
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    • #47
      These arent "ideals" your doing something barbaric, if your culture valued the murder of people over the age of 40, would it be okay if it was a cultural "ideal".....ending the life of anything which is self-aware is murder.
      i'm doing something barbaric? you didn't even read the post, did you. didn't i say that most koreans didn't eat dog? most koreans don't know of place that serves dog? that i don't know anybody who does, nor know any place that serves it?
      what am i doing that's barbaric? defending my own culture from an assault on the outside by people who have no idea what they're talking about? defending my own culture from an assault by ignoramuses who think that korean culture can be summed up in one thing-- eating dogs?

      wow. yeah, i guess i am a barbarian. i'm so sorry. yeah, i guess korean culture does suck. by the way, since we're barbarians, i guess we need them white people from europe to come in and teach us what's right from wrong, don't we? we don't know how to live by ourselves.

      i guess we were wrong about all of that confucian stuff in which education was prized. that ideal is out. i guess the ideal that fish is also meat is out. i guess the idea that meat is good to eat because it's very healthy is out. i guess the idea that developing our nation at the cost of our environment is in (it's western). i guess the idea of allowing more and more criminals back on the streets is good (again, western).

      it's your ideals in conflict with ours at the crux of this dilemma. my ideals are no more barbaric than yours.

      vesayen, i didn't say it was a good practice. but the western world sanctions the termination of many self-aware beings for food and for sport. you personally may not engage in it. but your compatriots do, and still maintain such a holier-than-thou attitude.
      few koreans actually eat dog. and yet, all of us are lumped together with them, and we all get the bad rap because of it.
      that you wasn't directed at you. it was directed at western culture as a whole.
      but even if you are a vegetarian, what right do you have trying to enforce your views of how the world should be on a culture that a) is not yours, b) is doing nothing violating human rights, c) is merely extending the definition of what is edible meat to one more livestock animal, d) is predominantly not vegetarian?
      Last edited by Q Classic; August 21, 2002, 11:28.
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      • #48
        Vesayen - is your beef (pun intended...but seriously) with people eating meat? Or people eating dog?

        If the latter, why is that any different?

        Q Cubed - Thanks for your comments, you've cleared a few things up. I started this thread as a poster made a 'funny' picture a few days ago at CGN...i think I'll post it just so people can see what I'm talking about.
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        Last edited by orange; August 21, 2002, 11:01.
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        • #49
          If humans weren't supposed to eat meat, how come we have canine teeth?
          To us, it is the BEAST.

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          • #50
            Differences in foriegn (to the joker or audience) cultures are common sources of humor. Such humor tends to fall flat in front of members of the pertinent cultures and defective PC liberals.
            such humor is also not the basis of completely unfounded liberal movements to decry the "cruel" or "barbaric" "nature" of some "foibles". i have no problem with most humor about koreans. why? because it's not something that gets hammered home in quite the same way-- you don't boycott the polish because you think poles are stupid; you don't boycott the french even if you think they're a bit too snooty; you don't boycott the irish because you think they're all drunks.
            but people do boycott and deride the koreans because for some reason they think all koreans like eating dog. and they laugh at that.

            that's why it's not funny.
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            • #51
              Originally posted by orange
              Vesayen - is your beef (pun intended...but seriously) with people eating meat? Or people eating dog?

              If the latter, why is that any different?
              Its with meat eating people in general, but dogs especially bother me because they are generally treated with more respect then a hamburger.

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              • #52
                Its with meat eating people in general, but dogs especially bother me because they are generally treated with more respect then a hamburger.
                In our culture...yes...

                however, in India, what you're doing is just as bad as what you THINK people who eat dog meat are doing.
                "Chegitz, still angry about the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991?
                You provide no source. You PROVIDE NOTHING! And yet you want to destroy capitalism.. you criminal..." - Fez

                "I was hoping for a Communist utopia that would last forever." - Imran Siddiqui

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                • #53
                  luck: i got this quote while editing a post.

                  The price of seeking to force our beliefs on others is that someday they might force their beliefs on us.
                  -- Mario Cuomo
                  vesayen, the dogs used are not the same dogs as any pet dog-- no poodles, no collies, no terriers, no labradors. it's a special breed, bred for the purpose of being livestock.
                  it's not treated with more respect than a pig, or a cow.

                  and dog meat isn't used in anything as vulgar as a "hamburger". it remains a very niche meat, preferred generally by people in the very rural areas, and it tends to be used only in select dishes-- delicacies.

                  again, few people ever really eat them. koreans tend to favor fish, followed by beef, then pork, then chicken.
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                  • #54
                    do you live in Korea Q Cubed, are you just from there?
                    "Chegitz, still angry about the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991?
                    You provide no source. You PROVIDE NOTHING! And yet you want to destroy capitalism.. you criminal..." - Fez

                    "I was hoping for a Communist utopia that would last forever." - Imran Siddiqui

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by orange


                      In our culture...yes...

                      however, in India, what you're doing is just as bad as what you THINK people who eat dog meat are doing.
                      I dont eat any mammals(poultry, chickens are dumb, my mind is okay with that, as are most fith), so India wont have a problem with me.



                      Q: Your making it sound like im bashing all Koreans for being terrible dog eaters, im not...i've never said that, but those that do are barbarians(as are anyone who eats cows).

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                      • #56
                        that's what I was asking earlier

                        had a brain fart, forgot you were a vegetarian, so disregard that comment about India and put a 'we're' instead of a 'you're'
                        "Chegitz, still angry about the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991?
                        You provide no source. You PROVIDE NOTHING! And yet you want to destroy capitalism.. you criminal..." - Fez

                        "I was hoping for a Communist utopia that would last forever." - Imran Siddiqui

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                        • #57
                          "Barbarians" is it. Well such barbarians have the vitality you vegans lack, and the willingness to KILL in order to advance their civilization. I am a OMINVORE. I shall eat you sacred cows, your unclean swine (likely more sentient than dogs), your cute furry game animals, your sweet cooing doves, I sahll eat whether they are raised: free range, factory farm, or wild game. I will kill and slaughter some of them myself. I will continue to deride weak bigoted fools who discrimnate among food scources in the same taxomic kingdom (remember that all live with multicellular, plant and animal, life is now in the same kindgdom). Vegan maladaptives, when you are scrouging for some small bit of lysine or other amino acid to cure your protein deficiancy, I will bestride your land like a colossus of power and full nutrition, and ensalve my decandent overcivilized inferiors.
                          Gaius Mucius Scaevola Sinistra
                          Japher: "crap, did I just post in this thread?"
                          "Bloody hell, Lefty.....number one in my list of persons I have no intention of annoying, ever." Bugs ****ing Bunny
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                          • #58
                            Where do I sign up for your army?
                            I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                            For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by DinoDoc
                              Where do I sign up for your army?
                              I have bar-b-ques and cookout parites about once month, how far from San Antonio are you.
                              Gaius Mucius Scaevola Sinistra
                              Japher: "crap, did I just post in this thread?"
                              "Bloody hell, Lefty.....number one in my list of persons I have no intention of annoying, ever." Bugs ****ing Bunny
                              From a 6th grader who readily adpated to internet culture: "Pay attention now, because your opinions suck"

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola
                                I have bar-b-ques and cookout parites about once month, how far from San Antonio are you.
                                Apparently way too far. This is the first post that ever made me wish I lived in Texas. Not that I'd be invited. No one invites commies. They're afraid we might bring Red Aunts.
                                Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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