Pandemoniak to Bloody Baro Continued

[Az]

grumble grumble silly libertarian communists grumble grumble


a state ( call it anything you like, I mean a government ) is crucial in creating concentrated human effort, che, and concentrated human effort is crucial to the success of humankind, and I am sure that's what all of us , political activists , red , green , blue or even black , dare I say, want .

[chequita guevara]

Government and state aren't the same things. The state is the repressive arm of the ruling class. Communist society will have a government, just no state.

[Az]

well, what's the difference? besides , when the state is discussed in such debates , it almost always mean government.

[chequita guevara]

No repressive apparatus.

[Az]

what do you mean by "repressive apparatus" in nowadays governments, states , etc?

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Provost Harrison
Bloody Baro? Isn't that something someone from Lancashire would say about a pen, eg:

'Where my bloody baro?'...

It's newbie heaven in here.

Avast, wretches...

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Provost Harrison
Are you dissing Foreman Domai?

I usually eliminate him early, if possible.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Azazel
what do you mean by "repressive apparatus" in nowadays governments, states , etc?

Secret police, military, etc.

[Pandemoniak]

Azazel, when the whole world is one nation and comrades, can you call it a state ?

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Pandemoniak
Azazel, when the whole world is one nation and comrades, can you call it a state ?

Yes.

[chequita guevara]

Pandemoniak, tthis avatar ain't big enough for the both of us, especially with us both being Marxists. People will be confused.

Guess it's time to change.

[Pandemoniak]

** BUZZ **
Wrong answer ! Since there all call each others comrade, there is no state, its finally the red side who won

[FlameFlash]

Bad Frogger!
It's newbie heaven in here.

Avast, wretches...

Teacher, DinoDoc is being mean!
I usually eliminate him early, if possible.

And he and the pirates are almost always who I choose in SMACX... *sighs*

chegitz guevara thought of this...
Pandemoniak, tthis [sic] avatar ain't big enough for the both of us, especially with us both being Marxists. People will be confused.

Guess it's time to change.

I though part of communism was that nobody could stick out? That works perfectly! (Either that, or latch on to my borg cube both represent a form of communism, even if the Borg were a lot more brutal about it...)

[Archaic]

Already claiming victory when you've yet to say a word? I expected something better. It's not wise to call another persons essay pitiful when you've shown no ability to be able to refute it. I thought you wanted this mano-a-mano Pandemoniak? If so, get rid of all your pathetic little cheerleaders. Seriously, it's like the blind leading the blind in here. Reminds me of a quote I once heard. "Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups." You think just because you can spam up this thread with more replies than Free Market Capitalists you've won? Just because others can't be bothered to correct your stupidity doesn't mean you're right.

As for the "Stardestroyer.net" lucky22, so what? You can read though both his SW Vs. ST and Creationish rebuttal sites there if you want. Attacking the name of the domain is a pitiful red herring. Regardless of if it's a scholarly essay or not, it still more than adequatly rebuts the Communit Manifesto's main points. Perhaps you should be asking yourself why Marxism can be rebutted by simple common sense.

Pandemoniak, I'll be glad to return the lesson in political philosophy and give you another in political economy. You've taken some rather narrow viewpoints, and made more than a few hasty generalizations with no actual data to support your beliefs and so called "facts". It will be a pleasure to rip you down.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by FlameFlash
I though part of communism was that nobody could stick out?

Nope, wrong. We've always been free thinkers, Bohemians, etc. It was the Maoists who changed that.