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  • #16
    Originally posted by Boshko

    Us Americans get embarrased enough *points to Kas's ICQ log* we need to fight back a bit don't we?
    Personally I'm pretty strongly against the death penalty...
    I wouldn´t say that this is typical european behaviour, more bleeding heart liberal behaviour...
    I love being beaten by women - Lorizael

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    • #17
      Is it possible that these women are marrying these men to get US citizenship, knowing that their supposed husbands are going to die. No muss, no fuss. If so, these women are not as dumb as they appear to be. Just a thought.

      Rich
      It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
      RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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      • #18
        Originally posted by rah
        Is it possible that these women are marrying these men to get US citizenship, knowing that their supposed husbands are going to die. No muss, no fuss. If so, these women are not as dumb as they appear to be. Just a thought.

        Rich
        What would be the interrest, for a european, educated women, of becoming an american widow? Does it pay so much?
        Is there no easier way for a european to get US citizenship?

        , no, I just believe they get cought in some helper-falls-in-love-with-someone-in-need syndrome. Something titillating their maternal streak in that irresponsible boy in need.
        How much do you bet that 80% of those weddings end up with a divorce once the guy comes out of jail? ... when the guy is no boy anymore, but a man?
        The books that the world calls immoral are the books that show the world its own shame. Oscar Wilde.

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        • #19
          That's part of my point, these guys are not getting out of jail so the risk to these women is minimized. Heck most of them don't ever have to sleep with them. In most of the examples, these women moved to the US to be closer to their man. HOW CONVENIENT. It's a lot easier to get US citizenship through marriage then any other way.

          Rich
          It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
          RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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          • #20
            Why would any European want American citizenship anyway unless they were nuts?
            Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
            Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
            We've got both kinds

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            • #21
              Apparently they do. Not surprising at all.
              The US is still the number 1 country in the world in terms of the number of immigrants that want to become citizens of. The whole world can't be all wrong.

              Rich
              It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
              RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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              • #22
                Originally posted by rah
                It's a lot easier to get US citizenship through marriage then any other way.
                Even with a convicted criminal?
                Why are mostly western-european women involved there? Shouldn't eastern european - at least, but also - african, asian, south-american women try it also?
                As long as the guy is in jail, I guess they receive no financial support... not what I should call an easy life. And once - if that even happen one day - he is dead...
                ...errr, wait... if US citizenship is their goal... then they should wish the death penalty to be applied asap... All that compassion comedy while they wish exactly the opposite... the b!tc#e$.
                Are there so many lone women trying to emmigrate to the US?

                I don't say no, but it's hard to believe.
                The books that the world calls immoral are the books that show the world its own shame. Oscar Wilde.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by MikeH
                  Why would any European want American citizenship anyway unless they were nuts?
                  To watch the new Simpson's episodes.
                  “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                  "Capitalism ho!"

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                  • #24
                    Why western European women instead of eastern. Quite simple....more access to the internet for opportunities to meet these wonderful examples of man.

                    I agree with you that their loathing for the death penalty is just a front since they know they can't influence it. That would explain the serial killers wives. They're sure their hubbies will never see the light of day again. Perfect for them.

                    It's the perfect scam. These women may not be as crazy as you think. And I for one don't mind seeing the convicts get scammed over the internet, since it's usually the other way around.

                    Rich
                    It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                    RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                    • #25
                      Most of those due for death penatly are innocent though

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by rah
                        The US is still the number 1 country in the world in terms of the number of immigrants that want to become citizens of. The whole world can't be all wrong.
                        SHOW ME THE STATS!!!!

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                        • #27
                          Sorry, I looked and found no source that gave a simple summary. But reading the sites that I did, it's not even close, the US is by far the leader. (and this only counted legal aliens) The estimates for illegal aliens were unbelievable. The world does vote with it's feet.

                          Rich

                          Feel free to do a google search and check out a few sites. It will be obvious to you quickly. Check out individual countries' statistics and compare them to the US INS numbers. Let me know if you find a the summary, that I was unable to.
                          It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                          RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                          • #28
                            6 million valid registrations for the diversity lottery this year. 3 million invalid.

                            I think the immigration visa waiting list stands at something like 5 or 6 million. Maybe Lancer would have a better idea.
                            Last edited by DanS; August 6, 2002, 12:33.
                            I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by rah
                              That's part of my point, these guys are not getting out of jail so the risk to these women is minimized. Heck most of them don't ever have to sleep with them. In most of the examples, these women moved to the US to be closer to their man. HOW CONVENIENT. It's a lot easier to get US citizenship through marriage then any other way.
                              The only problem with that theory is that there's no need for any Western European with an education to go the marriage way - you can live in the US anyway if you get a job (which is easy to both get and motivate if you have a degree) and after a couple of years you can become a citizen should you wish so.

                              As for the unskilled, uneducated ones, they'd have to be mad to leave the welfare states of Europe to try out their chances in the US, unless that chance just so happens to be mister $. Can't see that coming from a death row inmate, though.
                              "The number of political murders was a little under one million (800,000 - 900,000)." - chegitz guevara on the history of the USSR.
                              "I think the real figures probably are about a million or less." - David Irving on the number of Holocaust victims.

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                              • #30
                                Not as easy as you think, (as I was reading through the regs looking for statistics.) Marriage is much much easier and quicker. And from a money aspect, the women stand to inherit the rights to their husbands stories. Could be lucrative, you never know.

                                I guess this just sounds so weird that a women would be attracted to marry a mass murderer without some type of alterior motive. If it's up and up, the only alternative is that these women are really crazy.

                                Rich
                                It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                                RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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