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  • #31
    [Severe German accent]

    Deterrance is the art of producing in the mind of the enemy the fear to attack

    [/accent]

    [/Dr Strangelove mode]

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    • #32
      Hey Echty, speak for yourself!!!

      .....and I didn't know that tits could rage, but that's something I'd love to see someday. Could you perhaps give me directions as to where I could find the tits which rage?

      I voted "other" meaning to say none of the above. I don't think that any of the countries which have nukes now are likely to use them. Believe it or not, India and Pakistan are too responsible to use them. I don't think that North Korea, Iran, Iraq or al-Qaeda have nukes.
      "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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      • #33
        Well Dr S, I put it like "these guys would if they had any"

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        • #34
          At the end of World War II, no one else in the world had nuclear weapons than the United States, therefore there wasn't the threat of M.A.D.
          The threat of MAD will disappear with the missile defense shield. This means the US will be less inclined to not use nukes when the right situation presents itself.
          Quod Me Nutrit Me Destruit

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          • #35
            MAD is just what the acronym implies: insane.

            The missile defense is so we don't need 32,000 nuclear weapons.


            Oh, and do you think the japs would have hesitated for one second to use atomic weapons had they been bright enough to create them? (Self- defeating argument- consider kamikazes. That's japanese for fukinidiot.)

            The bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was an act of Terrrorism? Hardly. When we took Okinawa, most of the japanese civilians committed suicide rather than suffer the torture thay had been told they would experience. It was projected we would lose 1 million soldiers in a conventional invasion of japan. God knows how many civilians would have died. Luckily, the atomic blasts were wildly successful, and japan surrendered. Furthermore, they are now a democratic nation, thanks to our "torture."

            If you want to talk about brutality, consider how the japanese handled themselves in china. Or the Germans in Russia. Or, for that matter, the Russians in russia.
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            • #36
              Two wrongs never make a right.

              Your defense of the use of nukes is: the japs were worse.

              Rather poor argument.
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              • #37
                Luckily, the atomic blasts were wildly successful
                That's rather sick

                Do you know how many died from the blast? And how many from radiation? And how many suffered for decades after the event?
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                • #38
                  No, my defense of our use of atomic weapons is, it precluded the need to kill millions more.

                  And do not kid yourself, it WOULD have been necessary. They WEREN'T going to surrender.

                  Yes, several hundred thousand people died. That's what weapons are for- killing people. It was not expected that the bomb would cause nearly as much damage as it did.
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                  • #39
                    the ends justify all means?

                    You do realise that the use of nukes killed many people there who weren't even born in 1945?
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                    • #40
                      Countless millions never would have been born if not for the bombings. I'd say the ends are pretty good. I like freedom of speech, of religion, and of public demonstration. I am glad that I am not in servitude to any man. I am glad that I can find my own beliefs, rather than having doctrines forced down my throaght. I like that the world is not in a constant state of war.

                      Let me know when any of these ends upset you.
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                      • #41
                        If it were not for the 2 atomic bombs, firebombing of Japanese cities might have well continued until 1946. The one attack against Tokyo in July 1945 killed more people than Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined. Also, Japan would have faced a massive famine during the winter of 45/46 since US subs completely shut down Japanese shippings, on which they depended their grain supplies.

                        Even if the US invasion never took place, Japan would have suffered far greater losses in terms of lives and materials, and the US would have to spend far more resources on the war. Bad for both sides.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Dan Severn
                          MAD is just what the acronym implies: insane.

                          The missile defense is so we don't need 32,000 nuclear weapons.


                          Oh, and do you think the japs would have hesitated for one second to use atomic weapons had they been bright enough to create them? (Self- defeating argument- consider kamikazes. That's japanese for fukinidiot.)

                          The bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was an act of Terrrorism? Hardly. When we took Okinawa, most of the japanese civilians committed suicide rather than suffer the torture thay had been told they would experience. It was projected we would lose 1 million soldiers in a conventional invasion of japan. God knows how many civilians would have died. Luckily, the atomic blasts were wildly successful, and japan surrendered. Furthermore, they are now a democratic nation, thanks to our "torture."

                          If you want to talk about brutality, consider how the japanese handled themselves in china. Or the Germans in Russia. Or, for that matter, the Russians in russia.
                          Originally posted by Dan Severn
                          No, my defense of our use of atomic weapons is, it precluded the need to kill millions more.

                          And do not kid yourself, it WOULD have been necessary. They WEREN'T going to surrender.

                          Yes, several hundred thousand people died. That's what weapons are for- killing people. It was not expected that the bomb would cause nearly as much damage as it did.
                          Originally posted by Lord Merciless
                          If it were not for the 2 atomic bombs, firebombing of Japanese cities might have well continued until 1946. The one attack against Tokyo in July 1945 killed more people than Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined. Also, Japan would have faced a massive famine during the winter of 45/46 since US subs completely shut down Japanese shippings, on which they depended their grain supplies.

                          Even if the US invasion never took place, Japan would have suffered far greater losses in terms of lives and materials, and the US would have to spend far more resources on the war. Bad for both sides.
                          Beat me to it.
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                          • #43
                            Israel.

                            Has a day gone by since the fifties when Israel hasn't attacked someone? And they've repeatedly demonstrated that they like offensive strikes into other countries during "peactime".

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                            • #44
                              Also, I like the list. All of the above nations have some nuclear capability. It would be foolish to rule any of them out as future sources of nuclear trouble.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Cloud9


                                Yes, but that was in an entirely different day and age, with an entirely different set of circumstances.
                                As I recall, the official reason for H & N was to avoid US casualties that would be incurred in an invasion of Japan.

                                (The 'unofficial' reason was to throw a scare into Stalin - didn't work.)

                                The reasons which will be used this time around will be almost identical.
                                "I'm a guy - I take everything seriously except other people's emotions"

                                "Never play cards with any man named 'Doc'. Never eat at any place called 'Mom's'. And never, ever...sleep with anyone whose troubles are worse than your own." - Nelson Algren
                                "A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic." - Joseph Stalin (attr.)

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