Would seeing the sea part make you believe in God?

[Ramo]

What do you know?

More than you.

You tell me how the universe was created.

I don't know, but a Big Bang combined with some Inflation theory seems probable.

Singularities become infinitely smaller, and physics do not break down in them.

Uh, no. Our physical theories do break down in them.

And if the universe was created from one, why won't another universe emerge from the hundreds of black holes we have now?

We have no idea what's going on at the singularity. How many times do I have to tell you that?

Orange, the Bible isn't wrong. It is the word of God and everything in it is true. If you don't want God as your god, then are you like the people living in Sodom or Gomorrah? A sinner wasting his life? God didn't wipe them out without reason!

I see you're a Civvie-style missionary.

[orange]

i'm just waiting for...

"Gays are demon offspring"
"Shut up, you're banned"



Sorry King, my only regret is that if I'm right about God and afterlife, when we are both dead, i won't be able to rub it in your face.

[King of Rasslin]

If physics break down in singularities, forget about them ever making a universe. If we really don't know anything about them (I'm not a scientist) then we can't think that they made everything we know today.

And I know how the universe was made, and you don't. Probably because you don't believe in God, hmm? Your "big bang" has never been observed. In fact, nothing that could make a universe has been observed. That is why God, who cannot be observed, made the universe.

[King of Rasslin]

Gays are sinners. Simple as that. But I'm not going to "throw the first stone" here. I know that if they are sorry for their sins Jesus will forgive them. God is very forgiving, and people like you should be grateful.

[orange]

I'm grateful for a lot of things. For example, the intelligence to shrug off your drivel.

[Alexander's Horse]

Originally posted by King of Rasslin

God made the universe in 6 days.

Those must have been a busy few days for the old guy.

Which day did He put the fossils and dinosaur bones in the ground and the sea shells on mountain tops to confuse the Godless who are going to hell?

[Ramo]

If physics break down in singularities, forget about them ever making a universe. If we really don't know anything about them (I'm not a scientist) then we can't think that they made everything we know today.

Holy logical fallacy, Batman.

I suppose because some guy in the 14th century didn't know about microparasites, they can't cause diseases.

Your "big bang" has never been observed. In fact, nothing that could make a universe has been observed.

There is plenty of evidence that the Big Bang occurred - the background radiation and the red shift. However there is no evidence for the existence of a God.

[King of Rasslin]

Ok, but there is no evidence of *how* the Big Bang supposedly occured. Because of this, than God should be the answer because nothing has been observed to prove how the universe was made. And the Big Bang would have to have a cause, and singularities would not be the answer.

And how do you know that dino's weren't hunted out or died from post Flood climate changes? You know, there IS something in the Loch Ness lake. Fish swam up to the mountains during the Flood.

[orange]

Dinosaurs were hunted out!

That's priceless

Hey, because of no evidence of how the big bang occured, I say we credit life and the universe to...um...let's see...Stefu.

[King of Rasslin]

So? If you scientists believe mammoths were hunted out, why not dinosaurs? And since when does believing in God make you an idiot? I think you are an idiot if you don't believe in God.

[orange]

you're not an idiot for believing in God, you're an idiot for thinking that "because this is what I believe, that's why" stands up in an argument.

[King of Rasslin]

But what I believe is the truth. That is why it stands up in an arguement.

[Lung]

Originally posted by King of Rasslin
""God dun it" is not the only explanation."

That is true. But "God dun it" is the only correct explanation. Singularities become infinitely smaller, and physics do not break down in them. And if the universe was created from one, why won't another universe emerge from the hundreds of black holes we have now?

You are in fact wrong. Physics does break down at the point of the big bang, because the theory of general relativity breaks down when it approaches infinity. Anyway, who said universes don't emerge from black holes? You seem to be referring to a hypothesis popular a couple of decades back.

Orange, the Bible isn't wrong. It is the word of God and everything in it is true. If you don't want God as your god, then are you like the people living in Sodom or Gomorrah? A sinner wasting his life? God didn't wipe them out without reason!

Here we go with the bald assertions again You can't prove a single thing from the bible. It's entire premise is "it's true because it says so here". You believe in the bible because you were told that it's true. You have never viewed the bible objectively, so you are in no position to argue for it. Science, on the other hand, demands that you view accepted truths objectively. All scientific knowledge can be disproven if proven otherwise. Religion does not allow for this, so you are unqualified to state a case for the bible factually.

Actually, i like Sodom and Gomorrah. Some natural disaster wipes them out, and neighbouring villagers say "they obviously deserved it. I hear that they were all perverts!" Shortly thereafter it was accepted as fact. Don't you just love hearsay?

[orange]

Someday...maybe...if you're lucky...you'll wise up...

[King of Rasslin]

Fire from heaven destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. No "natural event" did that. God did.