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I wasn't aware we sent three billion in arms to Israel.
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Boris/Imran: Blowing yourself up in order to kill as many people as possible, along with supporting such acts, only serves to convince your target that you are clinically deranged and therefore not a suitable negotiation partner.
So you are saying that the British should start bombing Catholic neighborhoods in Northern Ireland
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The IRA never practiced suicide terrorism, Imran.
They leave that to the Orange order.Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
So you are saying that the British should start bombing Catholic neighborhoods in Northern Ireland?
I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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"Obviously, the perps of 9-11 should be brought to justice. Perhaps the Bushies are already working with Saudi and Egyptian authorities to track down members of the specific groups that planned and executed 9-11. If so, these guys, once arrested, should be put on trial for crimes against humanity at the World Court at The Hague. This would show the world that the U.S. seeks impartial justice rather than ham-fisted vengeance."Originally posted by DinoDoc
Boris/Imran: Blowing yourself up in order to kill as many people as possible, along with supporting such acts, only serves to convince your target that you are clinically deranged and therefore not a suitable negotiation partner.
What about that is negotiating with people who commit such acts? It's not what he's saying at all! Are you being dense on purpose?
Addressing the concerns of mainstream Muslims isn't negotiating with terrorists, just because the terrorists happen to have some of the same goals as mainstream Muslims. It would be stupid to take an all-or-nothing attitude about this.Tutto nel mondo è burlaComment
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Ok, $2 billion in arms, not $3 billion. Wooooo...Tutto nel mondo è burlaComment
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Osama Bin Laden doesn't need any support. He owns a huge construction company. He and his ilk don't really need much money anyway to buy a few box cutters. And my last sentence said that the terrorists hate Jews so that makes me a 'bigot against Muslims'? You must be kidding.Originally posted by Boris Godunov
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He isn't saying Al Queda isn't serious, he's saying Al Queda is a group of lunatics. But by robbing them of support from the mainstream by taking mainstream grievances seriously, its power and ability to be dangerous will be crippled.
You last sentence reeks of bigotry agains Muslims.
Rall's point stands. An unreasonable stubborness to acknowledge ANY wrongdoing on the part of the U.S.A. against Muslim countries will continue to be met with fanatical extremism by lunatics. We've done a lot of damage over there, are continuing to do so, and will be a target so long as we keep doing so.
Yes we will continue to be a target as long as we refuse to hate Jews. As soon as we renounce Israel then I suppose the problem will be solved. I thought we learned something from Winston Churchill and Nevil Chamberlin.Comment
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Martyrdom is understood only in the Islamic world? Do you think it would help the Palestinian struggle for independence if they used more conventional means of terror?Blowing yourself up in order to kill as many people as possible, along with supporting such acts, only serves to convince your target that you are clinically deranged and therefore not a suitable negotiation partner.
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The IRA never practiced suicide terrorism, Imran."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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I never mentioned the 9/11 terrorists, Boris. They weren't even the main thrust of my comment. I was mainly concerned with the trend within Islamic societies to resort to the cold blooded and calculated murder of civilians in order to get thier point across when thier are far more effective ways to acomplish the same goal, especially with regard to Isreal. Thier cause is utterly discredited by thier quite open moral and monetary support for the murder of innocents.Originally posted by Boris Godunov
What about that is negotiating with people who commit such acts? It's not what he's saying at all! Are you being dense on purpose?
The article, along with you and Imran, appear to subscribe to a fairly Pollyannish view of the world.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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I think terrorism is on the verge of completely discrediting the Palestinian cause and it is well past time for them to abandon the slaughter.Originally posted by Ramo
Do you think it would help the Palestinian struggle for independence if they used more conventional means of terror?I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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The fact remains that there is no reasoning with people who think that they are doing God a favor by killing innocents along with themselves. The idea of moderate Muslim support is commendable but OBL and his ilk has already been kicked out of the moderate nations. He does not need support he just needs a better visa making machine.Comment
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Imran's point was that the Israelis should've addressed Palestinian terror like the British have recently addressed Irish terror - by examining their legitimate grievances, instead of increasing repression.I think terrorism is on the verge of completely discrediting the Palestinian cause and it is well past time for them to abandon the slaughter."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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The problem is that they never stopped, or even attempted to stop, attacking civilians during negotiations and in fact use the attacks as leverage to extract evermore concessions. This only serves as proof of the position of hardliners like Sharon.Originally posted by Ramo
Imran's point was that the Israelis should've addressed Palestinian terror like the British have recently addressed Irish terrorI make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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It would sure as heck help their efforts if they gave up on terror entirely. Much as I want to be on the Pal side of the conflict, every time they pull another "ha! got a schoolbus!" I can't help but to think that the Israelis should flush them all... for the benefit of mankind at large.Originally posted by Ramo
Do you think it would help the Palestinian struggle for independence if they used more conventional means of terror?
Frankly, if they sat down and did nothing at all for a year, their state would be handled to them on a silver platter."The number of political murders was a little under one million (800,000 - 900,000)." - chegitz guevara on the history of the USSR.
"I think the real figures probably are about a million or less." - David Irving on the number of Holocaust victims.Comment
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Let's all hope they target lawyer schools in Atlanta, then, shall we?Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Frankly, if there are any other terracts in the US by Arabs, we deserve them."The number of political murders was a little under one million (800,000 - 900,000)." - chegitz guevara on the history of the USSR.
"I think the real figures probably are about a million or less." - David Irving on the number of Holocaust victims.Comment
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