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  • Huge disparity in US/Canada murder rates -- why?

    Major urban cities in Canada murder rate per 100,000 people (Source: Government of Alberta):


    US urban cities (source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/wor...000/153988.stm):
    Murder rate per 100,000 people
    Washington 69.3
    Philly 27.4
    Dallas 27.8
    LA 22.8
    Chicago 20.5
    Pheonix 19.1
    Houston 18
    NY city 16.8
    So why are they so different? Is it the gun laws? Is it the lowered economic disparity? Is it our cold weather? What? Discuss...
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  • #2
    Cold weather's not a bad explanation, actually. Murder rates skyrocket when outside temperatures go up...
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    • #3
      Nah, Americans are just a violent people by nature.
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      • #4
        Gang culture? Higher murder rates breed higher murder rates?
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        • #5
          tsk tsk tsk. Asher.

          You have been reading too many Paitktis trolls. A knee jerk thread should be beneath you. At least I hope you will refrain from calling us Nazies like he does. Or is that Ecthelion?
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          • #6
            The funny thing is, Asher's the most pro-American Canadian here. Actually, he holds dual citizenship, and can't wai to move south...
            12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
            Stadtluft Macht Frei
            Killing it is the new killing it
            Ultima Ratio Regum

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            • #7
              I love those stats, especially whenever somebody accuses the media of the cause of violence in the USA. Canada gets the exact same movies, TV shows, music, etc, yet their crime is 1/10 the rate of the US. Thats hard to overcome
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              • #8
                As a matter of fact, I think they are... hard to overcome.

                But you'll have to undo the culture of guns if you want to lower those numbers.

                Guns don't kill people. People with weapons kill people. Just a lot more efficient with a fully automatic weapon.
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                • #9
                  I KNOW FOR ONE THAT WASHINGTON IS AT THE TOP BECAUSE IT IS THE ROCK CAPITAL OF NA. I ALSO HAPPEN TO KNOW THAT THE WINNIPEG RATE IS HIGHEST IN CANADA BECAUSE OF THE HIGH NATIVE POPULATION THERE

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by KrazyHorse
                    The funny thing is, Asher's the most pro-American Canadian here. Actually, he holds dual citizenship, and can't wai to move south...
                    Well, to quote a famous Canadian "Isn't it ironic, don't you think"
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                    • #11
                      Gotta be the traffic.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Zylka
                        I KNOW FOR ONE THAT WASHINGTON IS AT THE TOP BECAUSE IT IS THE ROCK CAPITAL OF NA. I ALSO HAPPEN TO KNOW THAT THE WINNIPEG RATE IS HIGHEST IN CANADA BECAUSE OF THE HIGH NATIVE POPULATION THERE

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                        Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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                        • #13
                          Well, to quote a famous Canadian "Isn't it ironic, don't you think"


                          I can't stand her. CAN'T STAND HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                          12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                          Stadtluft Macht Frei
                          Killing it is the new killing it
                          Ultima Ratio Regum

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                          • #14
                            yet their crime is 1/10 the rate of the US


                            Somebody's exaggerating just a bit...
                            12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                            Stadtluft Macht Frei
                            Killing it is the new killing it
                            Ultima Ratio Regum

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Kirnwaffen
                              Gotta be the traffic.

                              Every morning I commute
                              Mild mannered man in a business suit
                              I want to get home at the end of my day
                              But there are all these other cars in my way

                              I pull up beside one...pull out my pistol...and blow 'em away

                              I'm driving my car and I want to go fast
                              But there's a slow car won't let me pass
                              I flash my light and I honk my horn
                              I have to consider him warned

                              I pull up behind him...pull out my pistol...and blow him away

                              Jesse James behind the wheel
                              It's high noon in my automobile
                              You call me crazy...you call me sick
                              But let me get to where I'm going to quick

                              That sonofa*****..he cut me off
                              Three whole lanes he cut across
                              He made me mad...he made me swerve
                              Sonofa***** got what he deserved

                              I pulled up behind him...pulled out my pistol...and blew him away

                              That motorcycle was riding between
                              The backed up traffic..right between the lanes
                              Y'know to me...that's an act of war
                              I saw him coming...I opened my door

                              I knocked him over...i pulled out my pistol...and I blew him away

                              Jesse James behind the wheel
                              It's high noon in my automobile
                              You call me crazy...you call me sick
                              Just let me get to where I'm going to quick

                              Little red sportscar was flying past
                              Made me jealous...it went so fast
                              I gave him the finger...I thumbed my nose
                              Took me fifty miles for me to get close enough

                              To pull up behind him...pull out my pistol...and blow him away

                              Little old lady...bless her heart
                              Walking her poodle across the boulevard
                              It was wearing a red knitted sweater and a red knitted hat
                              It's name was "Fifi" or something stupid like that

                              I said "here, Fifi"...pulled out my pistol...and blew it away
                              Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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