American position on the PA

[CyberGnu]

a)Which story would that be? I specifically remember you already mentioning this in another thread, in which some poster iirc even said he has seen a similar story.

About 40 Al-Quida members being based in palestine to provide training to the PA.

[Eli]

Originally posted by CyberGnu


And so you require the resistance fighters to alter their schedule because Israel decides to put children in harms way. Again you are defending the practice of using children as human shields.

Sending children to school on a bus is "putting them in harms way"? You're sick, very sick.

[CyberGnu]

well, the Palestinains promoting hatered in school is expected to be on the first page of every news media in the world. but it isn't. It rarely appears on back pages, which shows intentional down-playing.

That's because it isn't news. I'd say everyone here knows palestinian text books say quite unflattering things about the nation that occupies them.

Unlike you, though, we don't find it particularly suprising that a nation that is oppressed by another hates their oppressor....

End the occupation and it would be news.

[CyberGnu]

you chose to ignore questioning the humanity of those who take cover behind children. at least when they are palestinains.

So they are men who have become brutal because of the occupation. and this is suprising why? You choose to ignore the reason they are brutal...

[Eli]

Once source, only because I had nothing better to do.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4183407,00.html

[CyberGnu]

G. Tactics - Gnu is a biggotted troll. You should have noticed it.

Ahh, back to 'I can either consider what horrors I am defending, or I can insult someone who tries to force me to think about it. Insult away'.

I understand. I'm sure it would be intensly painful for you to contemplate what Israel is doing.

[CyberGnu]

Israeli newspapers publish retractions too.

What's the point?

Find me the die welt retraction then.

[CyberGnu]

They have every moral right.

Every person has a moral right to defend himself. Isn't that one of your basic pillars?

But Israel is not defending itself. It is occupying palestine. It is the agressor.

[CyberGnu]

To me it appears you have a mental block, understanding the difference between soldiers and civilians, grownups and children, attacker and defender and so on.

so it's not me with the mental problems here.

I have no trouble understanding the difference between them. And it is precisely because I understand the difference between a defender and an aggressor I oppose Israels atrocities.

So we are back to the original question: Does it hurt?

[CyberGnu]

[quote]You could have watched it on CNN some month or two ago.

Or you could have followed the threads here.

The fact that you have no idea about this specific terrorist act, makes me even more sure that your words are based on general prejudices with little knowledge as to specific events on the field.
[quote]

So source it. Quit whining and just source it.

[CyberGnu]

But he entered a room and saw a child and then killed it.

I don't see this as falling under the "killed child on accident" category underwhich it falls on the shoulders of the occupiers.

Wasn't he under fire when this happened? I'd say that a person under fire is not capable of acting 100% rationally.

[CyberGnu]

Your logic is again false, since the attacks (terrorist attacks) from the territories, and other arab countries existed before the occupation of 1967.

They also existed before 1947.

1929 being the most famous example of local arab massacres of innocent jews.

The real reason for terror is that arabs do not want jews to be their neighbours.

In 1929 jews only settled on land bought, or on unoccupied land in mandatorial palestine.

This continued until 1948.

The terror and resistance started there, due to the arab's unwillingness to accept new neighbours.

Their claim that the jews were stealing their lands, is the same as racist white americans have over the hispanic immigrants stealing US land.

This is bull and you know it.

[CyberGnu]

Eli:

People like CyberGnu are the source of the ME conflict.

Yes, I'm secretly controlling the IDF and force them to kill palestinians.

Your self-delusion is admirable. Just a question, since your grasp on reality is so thin, why don't you try imagine yourself surrounded with naked women or something? Would make more sense to create an illusion that is pleasurable, one would think. Of course, your fantasies might be psychotic in nature, and thus out of your control.... I hope your parents keep sharp objeccts away from you.

[CyberGnu]

if they enter the dormitory in a school (!) and see kids (!) asleep.

How is this then "accidental" killing?

You said that only accidental killing is the occupiers fault.

boys and girls, should we sing the old campsong again?

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source-source-source-wonderful source-source-source-source. Source source source, wonderful source, wonderful source! Wonderful source, wonderful source source source.

[CyberGnu]

But gnu is a democrat.

He's in favour of kids taking responsability for the military actions of their state

Back to the goldfish stage, I see.