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  • #76
    I should ask you that... the US isn't racist anymore? You are obviously ignorant and have no idea of what American society is like.
    To us, it is the BEAST.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Sava
      I should ask you that... the US isn't racist anymore? You are obviously ignorant and have no idea of what American society is like.
      Oh just because I hold a different opinion I am ignorant..... this is pathetic.... Sava obviously knows nothing about what he is talking about.
      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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      • #78
        Cheers, sava. You're not so bad, for a yank!

        Fez, its time you accepted that the US is probably the most hated country in the world, and with good reason. The US is selfish, self centred, greedy and imperialist. These are NOT qualities I would attribute to a democratic society.
        I.AM Canadian!!

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        • #79
          thanks Meester... you should clarify that idea though... RIGHT WINGERS in the US are selfish, self-centered, greedy and imperialist. There are good people like Che and myself. Unfortunately, the dark side is too powerful.
          To us, it is the BEAST.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Fez


            Oh just because I hold a different opinion I am ignorant..... this is pathetic.... Sava obviously knows nothing about what he is talking about.
            Yeah, I've only lived in the US my whole life, gone through public education in Chicago, Naperville (rich republican suburb), and Springfield (working class town). But I'm sure some 17 year old brat from Spain who believes in "reaganomics" knows more about my own country than me.... SUUUURRREEEEEE
            To us, it is the BEAST.

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            • #81
              Here he goes again.

              So I am guessing you don´t know anything about the outside world? Using my best stereotyping of Americans.
              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Sava
                thanks Meester... you should clarify that idea though... RIGHT WINGERS in the US are selfish, self-centered, greedy and imperialist. There are good people like Che and myself. Unfortunately, the dark side is too powerful.
                You are truely pathetic. You join a side that wants everybody at the poverty line while some corrupt bureaucrat rips the people off putting money in Switzerland! I SEEN IT BEFORE HAPPEN IN TWO COUNTRIES.
                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Derek Meester
                  Cheers, sava. You're not so bad, for a yank!

                  Fez, its time you accepted that the US is probably the most hated country in the world, and with good reason. The US is selfish, self centred, greedy and imperialist. These are NOT qualities I would attribute to a democratic society.
                  All right Asher. You're had enough fun for one night.
                  12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                  Stadtluft Macht Frei
                  Killing it is the new killing it
                  Ultima Ratio Regum

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                  • #84
                    It's time to halo Asher. (Just got back from watching "Minority Report")

                    Gatekeeper
                    "I may not agree with what you have to say, but I'll die defending your right to say it." — Voltaire

                    "Wheresoever you go, go with all your heart." — Confucius

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Grrr
                      Threadjackers
                      AWWWW. I posted seriously in the beginning. OK, I'll be a mature adult and quit participating in the OT on this thread.

                      Gatekeeper
                      "I may not agree with what you have to say, but I'll die defending your right to say it." — Voltaire

                      "Wheresoever you go, go with all your heart." — Confucius

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                      • #86
                        You can spam this thread now, I needed to write a speech on the topic to be finished half an hour ago .
                        Grrr | Pieter Lootsma | Hamilton, NZ | grrr@orcon.net.nz
                        Waikato University, Hamilton.

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                        • #87
                          Re: Do YOU think the american democracy is dead?

                          Originally posted by Grrr
                          A lot of people recently have been argueing on other forums on how the american democracy has ceased to exist. How Bush seized his way in, and how with 911 it has no become a facist dictatorship.

                          What do you think.
                          America never met the defination of a democracy to begin with. Its just a republic.
                          Join the army, travel to foreign countries, meet exotic people -
                          and kill them!

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                          • #88
                            The New Right seems dead in the water over here - it seems most citizens under 30 or 40 are pro-liberal society - racism and homophobia seem to be things the majority of the public don't want to relate to.

                            Now we just have to kill off the New Right in the US... (unfortunately the religious right seems waaaay to strong at the moment).

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by red_jon
                              The New Right seems dead in the water over here - it seems most citizens under 30 or 40 are pro-liberal society - racism and homophobia seem to be things the majority of the public don't want to relate to.

                              Now we just have to kill off the New Right in the US... (unfortunately the religious right seems waaaay to strong at the moment).
                              I'd like to let the record show that that's only true in the deep south, i.e. the confederate states.

                              Therefore, it stands to reason that the world would have been better off if we listened to the radical republicans.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Fez
                                Maybe you should examine the facts for a change! Just because I hold a different opinion then you doesn't mean you can insult me.
                                I was giving you facts, boy. You don't want to know them because they contradict what you want to believe. Furthermore, I have refrained from insulting for well over a year, even though I've been sorely tempted.
                                Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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