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No, the countries that have had the biggest issues about referees are Italy, Spain, and Portgual. That is not racism, it is fact.
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Even the FIFA never said the referees were correct in their decisions which are under discussion. They always excused it as "human errors". And given the fact that one wrongly allowed/disallowed goal can change the match completely (and far more than +/-1 in the final result), there are way too many of them. One or two over the entire chamionship is ok, but not one in every other game. With that many human errors, you'll have either to change the referees or the rules of the game.Why doing it the easy way if it is possible to do it complicated?Comment
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Holland!! Holland!!Quod Me Nutrit Me DestruitComment
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A mistake after the Spain-Korea match in a German website:
Deutschland muss im Halbfinale gegen Deutschland ran
(Germany to face Germany in the semifinals)
How true ...Why doing it the easy way if it is possible to do it complicated?Comment
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Do you suppose that humans should not make any mistakes?Originally posted by Adalbertus
Even the FIFA never said the referees were correct in their decisions which are under discussion. They always excused it as "human errors".
Maybe, maybe not. Paraguay (or was it Uraguay?) was down by three then came back to tie. You can never predict how one of these mistakes will affect the game.Originally posted by Adalbertus
And given the fact that one wrongly allowed/disallowed goal can change the match completely (and far more than +/-1 in the final result), there are way too many of them.
How? Most often it's not goals (dis)allowed per se, but for other things. Besides, how do you correct for a mistake? It's not like Handmelon where everybody lines up for a replay. You just can't get the same situation again.Originally posted by Adalbertus
One or two over the entire chamionship is ok, but not one in every other game. With that many human errors, you'll have either to change the referees or the rules of the game.(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
(='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
(")_(") "Starting the fire from within."Comment
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We are not Germans, damn you!Deutschland muss im Halbfinale gegen Deutschland ran
(Germany to face Germany in the semifinals)
How true ...Quod Me Nutrit Me DestruitComment
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Damn this hurts. All of my favorites are out. Argentina by bad luck, Italy by being cheated severely and Spain by more bad luck and also being cheated. We made a goal that was clear and it was disallowed.
I am very furious about this, extremely pissed off... this plot to wipe out all of the good teams. This must of been planned much earlier. Korea lost fair and square. And they allow those fools to continue to the next round? FIFA should get a royal ass-kicking.
MY COUNTRY HAS BEEN CHEATED OUT NOW. Along with ITALY! THERE WILL BE HELL TO PAY!For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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Of course they should not, but they do. It's about the frequency and the influence of the mistakes I was talking about.Originally posted by Urban Ranger
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Originally posted by Adalbertus
Even the FIFA never said the referees were correct in their decisions which are under discussion. They always excused it as "human errors".
Do you suppose that humans should not make any mistakes?
A perfect reason to try to get rid of them, as much as possible.Originally posted by Urban Ranger
quote:Originally posted by Adalbertus
And given the fact that one wrongly allowed/disallowed goal can change the match completely (and far more than +/-1 in the final result), there are way too many of them.
Maybe, maybe not. Paraguay (or was it Uraguay?) was down by three then came back to tie. You can never predict how one of these mistakes will affect the game.
As far as it is a fault only of the referees, better qualified referees. For the rules: Given the size of the pitch, and the distances to run, one or two more people in black wouldn't be bad.Originally posted by Urban Ranger
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Originally posted by Adalbertus
One or two over the entire chamionship is ok, but not one in every other game. With that many human errors, you'll have either to change the referees or the rules of the game.
How? Most often it's not goals (dis)allowed per se, but for other things. Besides, how do you correct for a mistake? It's not like Handmelon where everybody lines up for a replay. You just can't get the same situation again.Why doing it the easy way if it is possible to do it complicated?Comment
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Not any moreOriginally posted by Saint Marcus
We are not Germans, damn you!
The referee will be Dutch?Why doing it the easy way if it is possible to do it complicated?Comment
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MY COUNTRY HAS BEEN CHEATED OUT NOW. Along with ITALY! THERE WILL BE HELL TO PAY!
Quod Me Nutrit Me DestruitComment
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No, the winning coach.The referee will be Dutch?Quod Me Nutrit Me DestruitComment
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Spain should have played much better, so that it's victory didn't depend on a lamer referee....But then again, there is no question that the referee in this WC have been increasingly poor and indecent.
I say we get rid of referees all together, and handle everything by computer cameras and whatnot....DULCE BELLUM INEXPERTISComment
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YES IT DID DEPEND ON THE REFEREE. WE WERE PLAYING GOOD.... WE MADE TWO CLEAR GOALS. Not one but TWO. Both were disallowed.
Hey, that is a good idea... set up a computer which can look it at the facts with some unbiased people to make sure the computers aren't messing up. And in American football the referees look at the replays a half dozen times... maybe that would be a good model?
And Marcus, shut up you have no right to put on that stupid face. You know this world cup has been fixed from the beginning. And I got evidence to prove it along with everybody else watching the game Spain and Italy played in.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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Spain lost because they sucked up the field. Awesome display it was, too!I've been on these boards for a long time and I still don't know what to think when it comes to you -- FrantzX, December 21, 2001
"Yin": Your friendly, neighborhood negative cosmic force.Comment
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HELL NO! We made two goals and that is all that counts. We broke through the Korean team and made those two goals.
Korea sucks even more than Spain and didn't deserve winning.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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