CNN Just Lost All of Its Credibility

[Bereta_Eder]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20020618/ap_wo_en_po/britain_ted_turner_2

[Bereta_Eder]

he does sound like some people going to all those pro pal demonstrations though

actually he sounds exactly like them.

[Gatekeeper]

Paiktis:

We occasionally run wire copy that is analysis in nature by the more experienced and knowledgeable AP and KRT writers whose stories move over the wires. Locally, the print journalists do not express their opinion anywhere in the paper; that is reserved for the publisher, executive editor, associate editor and those folks from outside the paper who sit on the editorial board.

However, you just gave me an idea that I might propose to my boss: namely, allowing our local writers to write analysis pieces on relevant issues, should they be interested.

Gatekeeper

[Arrian]

An Israeli government spokesman quoted by the newspaper said Turner's remarks were "stupid."

Helluva rebuttal there, smart guy.


Stop the presses, I agree with Paiktis on something:

besides the laughing stock of the world remains Fox News

Fox is horrid. The others are merely bad.

-Arrian

[Gatekeeper]

Paiktis:

The article is a lot more expansive than what CNN itself said in its 15-second piece on Turner's comments. See, it pays to read about stuff rather than gathering snatches of it from the little time that TV news gives to it. Maybe it's just me, but CNN made it sound like Turner was blaming Israel part and parcel for terrorism. The news article indicates otherwise to a degree.

Gatekeeper

[Bereta_Eder]

Gatekeeper,

we must have the full interview (as well as a verification of it by turner) to be 100% sure, but yes from the AP brief it seems he is accusing both sides.

I think what sticks out is that he accused Israel of terrorism

[Bereta_Eder]

the interview in guardian is here

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4435748,00.html

but this is the electronic copy of it so it may not be the full article.

(tricks to make you buy the printed copy )

[markusf]

Originally posted by paiktis22
Gatekeeper,

we must have the full interview (as well as a verification of it by turner) to be 100% sure, but yes from the AP brief it seems he is accusing both sides.

I think what sticks out is that he accused Israel of terrorism

Of course Israel is conducting terrorism. The only difference is that isreal has the bigger stick and its a master of propaganda. Every time the the pals commit a act its all over the news, everytime israel does something they never show pictures.. I am betting we don't even hear 99% of whats going on.

[Az]

yawn. This maybe even not his real opinion, relax. AOLTimeWarner has some muslims as shareholders. If jews can pressure , they can as well.

[Lorizael]

People let their emotions decide their actions far too much. When Turner attempts to place blame on both sides, i.e., being fair and equal, he is criticized and called pro-Palestinian.

When he voices an opinion concerning the World Trade Center attacks other than, "The terrorists are evil and think we suck," he is criticized.

People must see reason.

I don't think the Israelis are terrorists, but they are most certainly to blame (at least in part) for this little situation they're in right now.

[Bereta_Eder]

marcusf
but as gatekeeper already said it is not our place to epxress opinions or to speculate but to report.

but just let me be the devil's advocate here for a bit (yes eli,siro and dal I'm going to defend Israel )

the allegded propaganda machine of Israel could well be a hoax. and could well be in infantile state compared to the arab one.

after all arabs hold 60% of the world's wealth, can you imagine what sort of a lobby that much wealth can produce?

just playing a bit of a devil's advocate

[markusf]

Originally posted by paiktis22
marcusf
but as gatekeeper already said it is not our place to epxress opinions or to speculate but to report.

but just let me be the devil's advocate here for a bit (yes eli,siro and dal I'm going to defend Israel )

the allegded propaganda machine of Israel could well be a hoax. and could well be in infantile state compared to the arab one.

after all arabs hold 60% of the world's wealth, can you imagine what sort of a lobby that much wealth can produce?

just playing a bit of a devil's advocate

uhm the USA holds 60% of the worlds wealth, Speculated reserves in oil etc etc don't mean a damn. The only thing that means something is stock & cash holdings.

I think you'd have your answer if you looked into "what makes a bomber" Why is it that only in the middle east people are willing to line up to blow themselves up?

[Bereta_Eder]

after al, in which country of the world are people being blown up almost in a daily basis and the rest of the world, to a large extend, has the tendency to consider it "normal" or "justified"?

what has created this sort of "special" approach towards Israel's plight?

[Bereta_Eder]

stock holdings mean something?

that's new...

before or after a stock market bubble bursts?

[Gatekeeper]

Paiktis:

My own employer often just publishes the ledes and maybe a few grafs after that of local stories that we post to our Web site ... to tease the readers into buying our paper and getting the whole story. Wire stories appear in their entirety, though. No teasing with those, 'cause it isn't produced by our local staff.

Gatekeeper