The Hague Invasion Act

[Saint Marcus]

We undertook the bombing of German cities in order to shorten the war and save lives, particularly the lives of Allied soldiers and Jewish prisoners. Similarly we undertook the bombing of Japanese cities to shorten the war and save lives, particularly the lives of U.S. soldiers.

The end justifies all means huh?

And you do know that the fallout of nuclear bombs kills people decades after the war ended? Barbaric. But those were different days I guess.

[Saint Marcus]

People in the US work more hours than most

Care to try again?

If an American warcriminal would ever set foot in Belgium, he'd be arrested and tried before a Belgian court. Same thing.

[Ned]

Saint Marcus, I invite you to be president of the United States for at least one day. Put your thinkink cap on, Saint Marcus, and step into the shoes of president Roosevelt or president Truman and tell us what you would have done.

Can you really tell us, honestly, that you would have decided to do things differently than those gentlemen did under the same circumstances?

War, under the best of circumstances, is hell. WWII was worse than that. It was the worst nightmare imaginable. For gods sake, I hope we never have another one like it.

But if one is in such a conflict, doesn't one feel some moral obligation to end the suffering and dying as quickly as possible?

[Saint Marcus]

But like I said, those were different days. People then didn't know the long term effect of the a-bomb. Ignorance is an excuse in matters like this.

However, know we know how horrible those weapons are. Using them, for any reason other than retaliation against a nation who used the weapons against you first, is barbaric. Any kind of bio/chem/nuclear first strike is barbaric.

Or don't you agree?

[Panag]

Originally posted by Ned
Saint Marcus, I invite you to be president of the United States for at least one day. Put your thinkink cap on, Saint Marcus, and step into the shoes of president Roosevelt or president Truman and tell us what you would have done.

Can you really tell us, honestly, that you would have decided to do things differently than those gentlemen did under the same circumstances?

War, under the best of circumstances, is hell. WWII was worse than that. It was the worst nightmare imaginable. For gods sake, I hope we never have another one like it.

But if one is in such a conflict, doesn't one feel some moral obligation to end the suffering and dying as quickly as possible?

hi ,

well Ned , you put it nice , .....

sometime people forget what it is to have a war or conflict , ....
and back then there where other fields of view , other things we did not know , that we know now , ...

have a nice day

[Panag]

Originally posted by Saint Marcus






If an American warcriminal would ever set foot in Belgium, he'd be arrested and tried before a Belgian court. Same thing.

hi ,

wrong , ......; unfortunatly , .....

have a nice day

[Ned]

Saint Marcus, in principle I agree with you that no nation today is justified in using weapons of mass destruction in a so-called "first strike." However, that is not the circumstances to America found itself in during the closing days of World War II. It seems by your last post that you now agree that what America did then was justified because it was effective in ending the war quickly, and because the long-term damage caused by radiation was not than well understood.

[Panag]

Originally posted by Ned
Saint Marcus, in principle I agree with you that no nation today is justified in using weapons of mass destruction in a so-called "first strike." However, that is not the circumstances to America found itself in during the closing days of World War II. It seems by your last post that you now agree that what America did then was justified because it was effective in ending the war quickly, and because the long-term damage caused by radiation was not than well understood.

hi ,

imagine when US troops would land on the mainland , and would be given a surprise with other types of WMD , ...

have a nice day

[Saint Marcus]

It seems by your last post that you now agree that what America did then was justified because it was effective in ending the war quickly, and because the long-term damage caused by radiation was not than well understood.

Yes.

And ONLY because the long term damage wasn't fully understood.


If the decision makers then had the same knowledge of the effect of nuclear weapons we have today, the act would never have been justified.

[Bereta_Eder]

sorry but did anyone heard about the video with americans torturing taliban and executing thousands of them in trucks?

the european parliement has allegendly pushing for the creation of an international enquiry squad to go and look this thing up.


if someone has a link (an english link), i'd appreciate it if he could post it so we all know what we are talking about.

these, if proven, may well constitute war crimes.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by paiktis22
sorry but did anyone heard about the video with americans torturing taliban and executing thousands of them in trucks?

Northern Alliance troops were the ones alleged to have done that. No evidence has been provided of involvement by American troops.

[Bereta_Eder]

do you have a link moneypenny?

[Panag]

Originally posted by paiktis22
sorry but did anyone heard about the video with americans torturing taliban and executing thousands of them in trucks?

the european parliement has allegendly pushing for the creation of an international enquiry squad to go and look this thing up.


if someone has a link (an english link), i'd appreciate it if he could post it so we all know what we are talking about.

these, if proven, may well constitute war crimes.

hi ,

its not even worth it , to give that video "attention" , ...
as for the rest , nope it did not happen , but aQ and the tal , did kill lots of people , until right before the arrival of allies , ..

have a nice day

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by paiktis22
do you have a link moneypenny?

Do you have a link to the video that supposedly proves American involvement?

[Bereta_Eder]

i can't even find the news on yahoo...
it's like it doesn't exist