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He can be convicted in a civilian court just as easily.
One has to wonder if he truly wants a panel of his "peers" to pass judgement though.
One has to wonder if he truly wants a panel of his "peers" to pass judgement though.
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The terrorism thing seems to be largely scaremongering amongst the populace. It's like paedophilia - sure there's a threat, but no-where near as great a threat as we are led to believe.Comment
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The trial will last one day in Civilian court and the jury will have his head. The jury will stay discussing his verdict for two hours probably...Originally posted by SlowwHand
He can be convicted in a civilian court just as easily.
One has to wonder if he truly wants a panel of his "peers" to pass judgement though.
I think he be better off with being held indefinitely without a trial...For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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Very few juries will convict based on the government's assertion only.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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Before addressing the question of whether "enemies" can be held indefinitely in "quasi-wars", I wonder who decides on whether someone is an enemy. For US citizens and non-citizens.
If the Bush regime seeks to take this away from the federal judiciary, then the door to the most insane abuse is wide open.
As for a jury... there's jury selection. Then a little history of government framings. Etc. I would not want to make this case of "conspiracy to blast a dirty bomb" as a prosecutor based on "well, we've heard they somehow discussed it...."Comment
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I think that he'd be better off demanding a trial before a judge rather than a jury trial based on what Tribe says.Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Very few juries will convict based on the government's assertion only.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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Tribe?Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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You should have read your article.Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Tribe?
I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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Brain fart!Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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Oh give me a break. This is a voluntary Web poll, not a reliable poll of random samples. Such polls on the Web always skew heavily conservative, because the working class folks don't have as much access to computers. This not a gauge of true public opinion, there is nothing remotely accurate about the poll.Originally posted by Giancarlo
I would like to bring this poll up from CNN:
Should the U.S. government be allowed to hold 'enemy combatants' without a trial?
Yes 77% 107051 votes
No 23% 32447 votes
Total: 139,498 votes
All I can say is: HAHA. Looks like public opinion is in favor of Ashcroft's decision. And this poll was taken from CNN... a news source I dislike.
And again, so what? This is pretty childish. Whether or not public opinion favors something doesn't make it right.
Argue on issues, not lame poll numbers.Tutto nel mondo è burlaComment
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Like you have to have a computer to have an opinion?
I can see the screening of jurors now, all the challenges by the lawyer, wasted on banning non-users of computers.
Yep. The guy will be safe from conviction then.
Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ BraindeadComment
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That's exactly what the CNN poll implies if one takes it as a legitimate sample, as only computer owners are voting in it. It is ergo crap as a public opinion poll, since the opinion of non-computer owners matters just as much.Originally posted by SlowwHand
Like you have to have a computer to have an opinion?
I can see the screening of jurors now, all the challenges by the lawyer, wasted on banning non-users of computers.
Yep. The guy will be safe from conviction then.
It's a skewed sample, completely unreliable.Tutto nel mondo è burlaComment
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No, its a sample of computer owners who watch CNN. This is an interesting result, since CNN is regarded by some tv viewers as a "lefty" network I would guess this poll is also primarily one of more liberal viewers.We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
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Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.Comment
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CNN is leftist.
And 100,000 votes for yes is enough for me to make up my mind.
CNN does an okay job when it came to those percentages because that is pretty much the opinion of the center, and center-left.
What country are you living in? Somalia? Because anybody can walk right into a internet cafe and get access to computers paying for several hours which costs almost nothing.Such polls on the Web always skew heavily conservative, because the working class folks don't have as much access to computers.
And lets face it America for the most part supports the Bush adminstration and its decisions overwhelmingly.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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No, it's a sample of computer owners who visit the CNN Web site. They are not necessarily television viewers.Originally posted by SpencerH
No, its a sample of computer owners who watch CNN. This is an interesting result, since CNN is regarded by some tv viewers as a "lefty" network I would guess this poll is also primarily one of more liberal viewers.Tutto nel mondo è burlaComment
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