Chretien begins forming his fascist dictatorship

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Hobbes
For God's sake, what's the obsession with right wingers and their bloody economies?! Where's the love? It's not enough! Just give it up! It's what makes the world go round and round and round!!

They have nothing else to base their self-worth on except money, silly. Deprive them of that, they become, in their own eyes, worthless...

[Hobbes]

And Hobbes: You don't like Alberta, but you've never lived here. Your dislike is based upon what you've heard, and most of what you've heard is, quite frankly, bull****.

You can say that if you will, but then I could say what you've been saying about the NDP is bull**** too. You've never lived in an NDP government. It's all a matter of opinion in this case. Not everything I have heard or read or seen is bound to be bull****. I have been there, you know.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Hobbes
You can say that if you will, but then I could say what you've been saying about the NDP is bull**** too. You've never lived in an NDP government. It's all a matter of opinion in this case. Not everything I have heard or read or seen is bound to be bull****. I have been there, you know.

I don't need to live in an NDP government.

It's quite obvious from the outside what's wrong with it.

You can make excuses for the pathetic state BC is in compared to the rest of Canada, but they're just excuses.

Name one thing that BC does better than Alberta.

[David James]

Originally posted by Hobbes


For God's sake, what's the obsession with right wingers and their bloody economies?! Where's the love? It's not enough! Just give it up! It's what makes the world go round and round and round!!

What world are you living on? It's gravity and momentum that makes the world go round. Sheesh.

Economics explains so much. That must be why leftists don't like it

In my population and economics class, the professor even delved into the subject of the economics of marriage

[Hobbes]

Name one thing that BC does better than Alberta.

Cut down trees.

It's quite obvious from the outside what's wrong with it.

Well, I believe the same to be with Alberta, but of COURSE my assumptions are automatically bull****.

[David James]

Originally posted by Asher

Name one thing that BC does better than Alberta.

I'm surprised at you Asher. I mean, it's so obvious; BC is far better at electing NDP governments than Alberta

[Asher]

Originally posted by Hobbes
Well, I believe the same to be with Alberta, but of COURSE my assumptions are automatically bull****.

What's wrong with Alberta?

Is it because we had the highest math marks out of the nation last year?
Or perhaps the highest average income combined with lowest taxes?

Or is it the title of "Cleanest City in the World" awarded to Calgary?

[Hobbes]

Economics explains so much.

Sure, but should that be the rating scale for a good government?

[Asher]

Without a good economy a government doesn't have a good revenue stream.

Without a good revenue stream you can't fund your social programs you like.

Economics are a HUGE part of a rating scale for a good government. Without economics, there's no money for all of your arts grants.

[Tingkai]

What you won't admit Asher is that Albertan government have had it easy because they get massive oil revenues. That's why you don't have a sales tax in Alberta. Take away the oil revenues and the Albertan tories would act just like conservatives everywhere. In other words, the conservatives would:
1) Talk about small government while increasing the size of government;
2) Talk about fiscal responsibilities while handing out massive corporate welfare;
3) Talk about cutting taxes while introducing new taxes;
4) Talk about responsible government while the conservative politicians are being convicted of corruption and murder; and
5) Talk about cutting government spending while putting the country into debt.

[Hobbes]

What's wrong with Alberta?

To be very stereotypical: rednecks. And lots of 'em



Okay, economy is good.

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by Asher
When you start looking at net and per capita figures, like what I've been doing this whole time while you still argue gross, Alberta clearly pays far more than any other province.

Provide the numbers. You haven't so far. All you have done is talk.

I have provide total revenue numbers and per capita numbers.

Show me the numbers.

[Hobbes]

Oh, and they use religion to play the 'oh poor me, Ontario is descriminating because we are God fearing people'

[Asher]

Originally posted by Hobbes
To be very stereotypical: rednecks. And lots of 'em

Yeah, and that is a very, very false assumption.

Originally posted by Tingkai
What you won't admit Asher is that Albertan government have had it easy because they get massive oil revenues. That's why you don't have a sales tax in Alberta.

That's not even what we've been talking about. Of course Alberta gets a big boost from the oil revenues. Does that make us any less valid as people?

1) Talk about small government while increasing the size of government;
2) Talk about fiscal responsibilities while handing out massive corporate welfare;
3) Talk about cutting taxes while introducing new taxes;
4) Talk about responsible government while the conservative politicians are being convicted of corruption and murder; and
5) Talk about cutting government spending while putting the country into debt.

Very poor troll. 0.3/10.

[David James]

Originally posted by Hobbes

Economics explains so much.

Sure, but should that be the rating scale for a good government?

I don't follow ... that answer was in response to why we right wing nutcases [blush] like economics so much.

But yes, economics should be used as a rating scale for good government. The question of whether or not people are made better off or not as a result of government policy is mainly an economic question. If people are not made better off by such policy then there is little, if any, justification for it.