US calls for a Netherlands Invasion Clause

[Ned]

Saint Marcus, I am surprised that you cannot see the basic problem. If an American, acting in his official capacity, is charged with war crimes by an enemy of the United States, and that person is arrested and taken to the Hague, the arrest is an act of war against the U.S. (Ditto any country trying to arrest an official of an enemy country. I can think of the Greeks trying to arrest Turk officials, for example.)

If the Dutch refuse to turn the American over to the United Stares, they too have committed an act of war.

The problem is not respect for treaties per se, it is that this treaty appears to permit countries to carry out war against their enemies by other means. The Dutch may have no idea what kind of quicksand they have just stepped into.

[chequita guevara]

If an American, acting in his capacity as an official of the US is charged with a war crime, the crime will be investigated before people are simply shipped off to the Hauge. We don't jail first and investigate second. If a trial is called for, there will likely be substantial evidence calling for a trial.

The US doesn't want to be held resposible because war crimes are a part of the war we do war.

[TCO]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


Half a million people died from the bombing of Cambodea. That wasn't just from bombing the Trail. When you kill half a million civilians in a military operation, it's a war crime.

I kinda doubt those numbers...that would be a pretty intense bombing campaign. You must be mixing in some other conflict casualties...not direct deaths from our bombing.

[KrazyHorse]

If the Dutch refuse to turn the American over to the United Stares, they too have committed an act of war

No it isn't...

[Felch]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
When you kill half a million civilians in a military operation, it's a war crime.

But when you kill a half million "counter-revolutionaries," it's a noble anti-imperialist act.

Remember people, Che is better than us, because he is enlightened. No sense disagreeing with leftists, because they won't listen to you anyway.

[chequita guevara]

You know, that was rather uncalled for.

[TCO]

Pravda IS the truth. The truth is whatever the dialectic says is needed to advance the train of history. The Party is the locomotive!

[chequita guevara]

[TCO]

Trains are big in the Commie world.

[KrazyHorse]

And in physics.

[Ned]

Che, I agree with your post. However, read mine again. The hypo is that the arrest is 1) made; 2) by an enemy; for 3) political reasons: war by other means. Can you imagine the Secretary of State on an official mission to Greece, for example, being arrested and taken to the Hague?

[TCO]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
And in physics.

hmmm...yes.

[chequita guevara]

Why would a Third country arrest an American leader and send him to the Hague with only an accusation?

[faded glory]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


Half a million people died from the bombing of Cambodea. That wasn't just from bombing the Trail. When you kill half a million civilians in a military operation, it's a war crime.

again did you read my post? There was and is absolutely no way to confirm this. The same people who said hundreds of thousands died are the same people who later went in and rounded up 90% of the population and sent them to death camps. There is absolutely no way you can say american bombs are responsible for that, when a few years later before anyone could investigate it. Pol pot rounded up 2 million peasants on the border and sent them to the gulags.


edit-your evidence doesnt even stand up in court. Put that in yer pipe and smoke it!

[Lincoln]

The EU would love to get its hands on Ariel Sharone and lock him up for trial for example and some would like to drag Ronald Reagan to the Hague. It is probably best to just play judge and jury for your own people. Once it starts there will be no end to the pompous trials of whoever differs ideologically from Europe. Why don't you try Arrafat for a starter?