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  • What you just said doesn't make any sense. Treaties are agreed to by the US federal gov't; why would this same body try to undercut treaties it's signed? The US would do better to just pass another law getting rid of the agreement to the treaty (breaking international law, not domestic).

    The point of treaty law superceding all domestic law except the Constitution (which is an element of internal US policy, BTW; it's not been imposed on you from outside) is to guarantee that the US fed. gov't can live up to the treaties it signs without having to worry that it's violating Subsection vi(b) of Statute 3674 of Illinois state law...
    12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
    Stadtluft Macht Frei
    Killing it is the new killing it
    Ultima Ratio Regum

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    • Originally posted by KrazyHorse
      What you just said doesn't make any sense. Treaties are agreed to by the US federal gov't; why would this same body try to undercut treaties it's signed?
      It wouldn't. That is the point of my post.

      I don't think that you understand what I am trying to say. The U.S. isn't going to sign something that it doesn't want to, as is shown by the thread topic. The U.S. will sign something that benefits the U.S. as a whole, even if it violates a particular article in some a state law. However, we won't agree to a law that violates fundamental national laws ( the Constitution).
      "The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is to have with them as little political connection as possible... It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world, so far as we are now at liberty to do it." George Washington- September 19, 1796

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      • Yeah, and you responded to Saint Marcus (?) who was making the point that a treaty violating domestic law is no barrier to signing it by saying that international law doesn't supercede domestic law. I think you might have misunderstood the original context...
        12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
        Stadtluft Macht Frei
        Killing it is the new killing it
        Ultima Ratio Regum

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        • The U.S. will sign something that benefits the U.S. as a whole, even if it violates a particular article in some a state law. However, we won't agree to a law that violates fundamental national laws ( the Constitution).
          Yeah, and you responded to Saint Marcus (?) who was making the point that a treaty violating domestic law is no barrier to signing it by saying that international law doesn't supercede domestic law. I think you might have misunderstood the original context...
          Thanks for clearing that up.
          Quod Me Nutrit Me Destruit

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          • The Economist on this issue:

            Title: Oh, and Somalia too
            Subtitle: America's almost solitary refusal to do the decent thing
            Quod Me Nutrit Me Destruit

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            • Originally posted by Dalgetti
              well, call it mid-eastern culture then.
              It also occurs in India, in South America, in Africa, and in the US, and probably everywhere in the world. In many places it isn't legal, but if the authorities refuse to prosecute, it doesn't matter. This isn't limited geographically or ideologically. It occurs almost world wide, just someplaces more than others.
              Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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