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  • Sunday, May 5, 2002
    Israeli Army assault on foreign activists (Part 1)
    Posted by Andrea Becker

    (Ramallah, Palestine, 5 May 2002)-- The following is an email written by Huwaida Arraf, one of the founders of the International Solidarity Movement (ISM) and regular contributor to Live from Palestine. Updates to follow. [AB]

    Friends,

    We succeeded to get foodstuffs and “international protection” into the Church of the Nativity! If you haven’t yet seen the reports, please see below.

    The 13 of us that were detained after the action have just been released for a few hours, I think. We were 8 guys and 5 ladies. After over 7 hours of being detained and questioned by the Israeli military, we were finally hand-cuffed and escorted out of Bethlehem. At the Bethlehem checkpoint, the guys and girls were divided. The five ladies were pushed into the floor of a police jeep and our legs were bound. The Israeli police officers drove around for a while then stopped and pulled one girl out - Ida Fasten, from Sweden, cut her loose and left her, in the middle of we don’t know where, by herself. We were horrified! They had taken all of our phones and identification, and it was 2am. When I protested leaving a foreign woman out in the middle of unfamiliar territory in the middle of the night, with no phone and no ID, I was physically assaulted -- slapped hard in the face by one of the officers. Both officers in the jeep refused to give us their names and badge numbers, despite repeated requests.


    When we realized that the officers were going to leave each one of us in a different place, the four of us left in the jeep agreed on a meeting place. Four of us are now safe in a hotel in Jerusalem, but we still don’t know where Ida is. We don’t know what happened to the guys. Again, none of us have our phones. We were told to report to a certain location, 24 Hillel, at 9am - in 4 hours. I pray Ida is there and that the guys are also safe.

    We don’t know whether we face arrest or deportation; what we do know is that the presence of the international civilians now inside the Church of the Nativity is probably a lifesaver. We brought in food and are offering international presence as protection for the civilians inside the church from the indiscriminate shooting of the Israeli Army. We are international civilians upholding international law. Please contact your governments and ask them to do the same.

    In solidarity & struggle,

    Huwaida

    ISM

    "The worlds most disciplined army" Just like SA back in the good ol days?
    Que l’Univers n’est qu’un défaut dans la pureté de Non-être.

    - Paul Valery

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    • I'd consider 18 months of senseless violence directed at Israeli civilians to be the equivalent of "spitting in Israel's face", especially in light of the very reasonable settlement offered by the Israelis. The Pals are the ones who chose a return to violence, not the Israelis.




      When you elect a war criminal as Prime Minister, you chose violence just as much as anyone else.

      The second intifada started few days before Sharon's visit.


      If you keep saying it, maybe you'll believe it to be true .
      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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      • [QUOTE] The Pals are the ones who chose a return to violence, not the Israelis.[/q]

        true


        When you elect a war criminal as Prime Minister, you chose violence just as much as anyone else.

        proven ; not quilty , .......



        have a nice day
        - RES NON VERBA - DE OPRESSO LIBER - VERITAS ET LIBERTAS - O TOLMON NIKA - SINE PARI - VIGLIA PRETIUM LIBERTAS - SI VIS PACEM , PARA BELLUM -
        - LEGIO PATRIA NOSTRA - one shot , one kill - freedom exists only in a book - everything you always wanted to know about special forces - everything you always wanted to know about Israel - what Dabur does in his free time , ... - in french - “Become an anti-Semitic teacher for 5 Euro only.”
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        • Having a free media means self-censorship; i.e., the right of the media to decide what they will report. Otherwise there ain't no such animal as a free press.

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          • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


            When you elect a war criminal as Prime Minister, you chose violence just as much as anyone else.
            Palestine started this new wave of violence. You can claim Sharon is a war criminal all you want, but it doesn't change this basic fact. The Pals wanted a war and they got it; makes me have little sympathy for their current situation. If you don't want the IDF rolling through your town, don't send suicide bombers into Israel. It's a pretty simple calculation.
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            • The Pals wanted a war and they got it


              Sharon wanted a war and he got it. Smart political play, doesn't make him any less evil though.
              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
              - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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              • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                [q]

                When you elect a war criminal as Prime Minister, you chose violence just as much as anyone else.

                ahem , did we forget the planes that yasser blew up , ....the killings in Tunis , by the PLO , .....???
                oh yeah , Sharon had his day in court , several times ; "not quilty" , ...

                i wonder if yasser would be in court , ......he never been there , ....

                The second intifada started few days before Sharon's visit.


                If you keep saying it, maybe you'll believe it to be true .
                the second intifada was started when Europe gave money to PA , they thought that they could take over the world , ........


                have a nice day
                Last edited by Panag; May 8, 2002, 14:24.
                - RES NON VERBA - DE OPRESSO LIBER - VERITAS ET LIBERTAS - O TOLMON NIKA - SINE PARI - VIGLIA PRETIUM LIBERTAS - SI VIS PACEM , PARA BELLUM -
                - LEGIO PATRIA NOSTRA - one shot , one kill - freedom exists only in a book - everything you always wanted to know about special forces - everything you always wanted to know about Israel - what Dabur does in his free time , ... - in french - “Become an anti-Semitic teacher for 5 Euro only.”
                WHY DOES ISRAEL NEED A SECURITY FENCE --- join in an exceptional demo game > join here forum is now open ! - the new civ Conquest screenshots > go see them UPDATED 07.11.2003 ISRAEL > crisis or challenge ?

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                • And that makes you horny?
                  Last edited by laurentius; May 8, 2002, 14:16.
                  Que l’Univers n’est qu’un défaut dans la pureté de Non-être.

                  - Paul Valery

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                  • Originally posted by laurentius



                    "The worlds most disciplined army" Just like SA back in the good ol days?
                    Just checked the website for the International Solidarity Movement -- not exactly non-partisan, are they?
                    No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                    • Why is this thread still active?


                      Go away, I'm bored with you now.
                      Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                      • I just heard on the radio that they have moved everyone out of the church...except for the thirteen most wanted.
                        No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                        • That's because the EU doesn't want to deal with them.
                          I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                          For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                          • Yeah, I like the way that went down:

                            Israel: So we are agreed. The thirtenn militants to be sent to Italy under student visas, where they will stay at an Institution of higher education there under the eye of a professor, for a period of three years or so...

                            PA: Agreed.

                            Italy: (long, long pause)...WHAT!?

                            No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                            • So do those fellows keep their weapons or not? I'm afraid Israeli forces will storm the church and kill them.

                              Has there been any evidence of those 13 guys being terrorists then?

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                              • hi ,

                                sending them abroad is a mistake , look at yasser , we should put them on trial , afterall , they killed our people , so we should put them behind bars , ......

                                and if some people really "love" them , call them , ......

                                and we shall talk again in 30 days , ......

                                have a nice day

                                - RES NON VERBA - DE OPRESSO LIBER - VERITAS ET LIBERTAS - O TOLMON NIKA - SINE PARI - VIGLIA PRETIUM LIBERTAS - SI VIS PACEM , PARA BELLUM -
                                - LEGIO PATRIA NOSTRA - one shot , one kill - freedom exists only in a book - everything you always wanted to know about special forces - everything you always wanted to know about Israel - what Dabur does in his free time , ... - in french - “Become an anti-Semitic teacher for 5 Euro only.”
                                WHY DOES ISRAEL NEED A SECURITY FENCE --- join in an exceptional demo game > join here forum is now open ! - the new civ Conquest screenshots > go see them UPDATED 07.11.2003 ISRAEL > crisis or challenge ?

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