Fiera's 60s Thread Strikes Back. Again.

[Buck Birdseed]

Might have worded it badly. This is what I meant, to clarify:

One of the following statements is false.

(a) There has been a woman and her son who both have had a #1 hit, either together or separately.

(b) There has been a woman and her daughter who both have had a #1 hit, either together or separately.

(c) There has been a man and his son who both have had a #1 hit, either together or separately.

(d) There has been a man and his daughter who both have had a #1 hit, either together or separately.

Which one?

[Buck Birdseed]

"Crying in the Chapel" only spent one week at #1, I'm alive the following two. "Mony Mony" spent two consecutive weeks at #1 in August 1968.

[Buck Birdseed]

Here's a deceptively simple question to go with yours, finbar:

AFTER O-bla-di-o-bla-da, what was the next #1 hit that returned to #1?

[finbar]

I've cross-checked. Results as follows:

1965: "Crying In The Chapel" was #1 for one week - 17/6/65 - and for another week from 1/7/65.

1965: "I'm Alive" was #1 for one week - 24/6/65 - and for another two weeks from 8/7/65.

1968: "Mony Mony" was #1 for two weeks from 31/7/68 and for another one week from 21/8/68.

It might boil down to which charts of the time are being used as the source. And they did vary. As they still do. My source are based on "Record Retailer" magazine which was also the source of the BBC's charts. Just out of interest, in order to compare your - and obviously Fiera's - and my sources, I'll list the #1s either side of the ones I've detailed above:

27/5/65 - "Long Live Love" (Sandie Shaw) for 3 weeks
17/6/65 - "Crying In The Chapel" (Elvis Presley) for 1 week
24/6/65 - "I'm Alive" (Hollies) for 1 week
1/7/65 - "Crying In The Chapel" (Elvis Presley) for 1 week
8/7/65 - "I'm Alive" (Hollies) for 2 weeks
22/7/65 - "Mr Tambourine Man" (Byrds) for 2 weeks
5/8/65 - "Help!" (Beatles) for 3 weeks

Now I'll skip a couple of years:

24/7/68 - "I Pretend" (Des O'Connor) for 1 week
31/7/68 - "Mony Mony" (Tommy James, etc) for 2 weeks
14/8/68 - "Fire" (C.W. of A.B.) for 1 week
21/8/68 - "Mony Mony" (Tommy James, etc) for 1 week
28/8/68 - "Do It Again" (Beachboys) for 1 week
4/9/68 - "I've Gotta Get A Message To You" (Bee Gees) for 1 week.

How do they compare?

[finbar]

Originally posted by Snapcase
Might have worded it badly. This is what I meant, to clarify:

One of the following statements is false.

(a) There has been a woman and her son who both have had a #1 hit, either together or separately.

(b) There has been a woman and her daughter who both have had a #1 hit, either together or separately.

(c) There has been a man and his son who both have had a #1 hit, either together or separately.

(d) There has been a man and his daughter who both have had a #1 hit, either together or separately.

Which one?

That's putting it more simply???

Anyway, I'll read it very very closely.

[finbar]

Originally posted by Snapcase
Might have worded it badly. This is what I meant, to clarify:

One of the following statements is false.

Ahhhh! Now I get it. Couldn't be more different to my interpretation of the original. Odd, that.

Anyway, (d) is a true statement - via the Sinatras - so we can eliminate that one.

[finbar]

And (c) is also a true statement - via, at least, Julio and Enrique Iglesias - so we can eliminate that one, too.

Sorry, Fiera, that was probably one for you.

[Fiera]

Originally posted by finbar
27/5/65 - "Long Live Love" (Sandie Shaw) for 3 weeks
17/6/65 - "Crying In The Chapel" (Elvis Presley) for 1 week
24/6/65 - "I'm Alive" (Hollies) for 1 week
1/7/65 - "Crying In The Chapel" (Elvis Presley) for 1 week
8/7/65 - "I'm Alive" (Hollies) for 2 weeks
22/7/65 - "Mr Tambourine Man" (Byrds) for 2 weeks
5/8/65 - "Help!" (Beatles) for 3 weeks

Now I'll skip a couple of years:

24/7/68 - "I Pretend" (Des O'Connor) for 1 week
31/7/68 - "Mony Mony" (Tommy James, etc) for 2 weeks
14/8/68 - "Fire" (C.W. of A.B.) for 1 week
21/8/68 - "Mony Mony" (Tommy James, etc) for 1 week
28/8/68 - "Do It Again" (Beachboys) for 1 week
4/9/68 - "I've Gotta Get A Message To You" (Bee Gees) for 1 week.

How do they compare?

My source shows two obvious errors in both years. It's supposed to be listed in chronological order, yet it lists "Crying in the Chapel" as #1 in 1 July, before "I'm Alive" in 24 June. The same goes for 1968 with "Do It Again" and "Fire".

So I'm guessing finbar's source is right, and Snapcase's and mine are wrong. They're probably the same! Martin's Music rings a bell?

[Fiera]

Originally posted by finbar
And (c) is also a true statement - via, at least, Julio and Enrique Iglesias - so we can eliminate that one, too.

We could eliminate those from this thread either way...

[finbar]

Originally posted by Fiera


We could eliminate those from this thread either way...

I wish there were a smilie for wetting your pants with laughter.

Now go to bed!

[finbar]

Originally posted by Snapcase

(b) There has been a woman and her daughter who both have had a #1 hit, either together or separately.

I've got possible candidates for this one, but, as yet, no hard evidence. It also depends on the definition "had a #1 hit". If it can be taken to mean performed on a #1 hit - as distinct from being the named artist or a member of the named group - then Cissy and daughter Whitney Houston could qualify.

Whitney hit #1 with "Saving All My Love For You" in 1985. Cissy - as one of the Sweet Inspirations - backed a lot of major artists on their hits. I haven't, yet, been able to nail down a #1. But, given the quality of the artists, there must have been at least one. I have no idea whether I can nail it down. But I'll try.

All of which, of course, is irrelevant if Snappy's definition is limited to being a named artist or a member of a named group.

Edit. In fact, not being a nong, I'll wait for Snappy's ruling before I go any further.

[Buck Birdseed]

Named, I believe, would be the custom. If you're willing to prove the question false by adding backup singers I invite you to be my guest.

Martin's Music does ring a bell , but I've been using a different site recently. Which contains the answer to all my trivia questions, so I won't reveal it.

Looking over the records they so don't add up, they're in the wrong order and the date is written wrong. So you may well be right, finbar...

[finbar]

Originally posted by Snapcase
Named, I believe, would be the custom. If you're willing to prove the question false by adding backup singers I invite you to be my guest.

Bugger.

Martin's Music does ring a bell , but I've been using a different site recently. Which contains the answer to all my trivia questions, so I won't reveal it.

Looking over the records they so don't add up, they're in the wrong order and the date is written wrong. So you may well be right, finbar...

I've cross-checked my sources a couple of times over the years. They're the traditional, mainstream charts, so they're pretty reliable.

I'm off to bed now. I shall arise refreshed and desperate to solve the familial thing.

[finbar]

Gee, I panicked and thought the thread had disappeared. Worse, it was languishing while I'm trying to nut out (a) and (b). I think I'm going to need a clue, Snappy. What sort of vintage are we talking about for the last true one? I don't mean both generations. One will do.

[finbar]

Hang about, don't give me a clue. I think I've narrowed a mother-son combo down to a decade. Now I just have to trawl through the decade's #1s.