Ethnicity

[MrFun]

Affirmative action and quotas is not about letting idiots in --- it's about aggressively seeking competent people for schools or careers, who belong to a minority group.

I love how you guys distort the purpose of quotas and affirmative action. It only makes you look bad.

[Sarxis]

why do people feel kinship based on believed biological connections. Why is it that people get so wrapped up in their ethnic identiy that they are willing to strap C-4 to themselves and kill ...

I am partly Polish.

I like Pierogies.


DON'T YOU DARE TOUCH MY GAWD@MN PIEROGIES!!!

[Inverse Icarus]

Re: Re: Ethnicity

Originally posted by Serb

How many Americans with Japanese roots were departated after Pearl Harbor?

i LOVE flaming people who say enterment was wrong.

the attack on Perl Harbor itself was aided by the use of Japanese spies, and the rumor was that they were basically everywhere. it was a wartime necessity, and i wish they did it now.

[Tingkai]

Re: Re: Re: Ethnicity

Originally posted by UberKruX


i LOVE flaming people who say enterment was wrong.

the attack on Perl Harbor itself was aided by the use of Japanese spies, and the rumor was that they were basically everywhere. it was a wartime necessity, and i wish they did it now.

You want to throw Japanese-Americans into internment camps now? Talk about holding a grudge.

[Solly]

Hoek,

"let me first say that I am a white male American of 100% Dutch extraction."

"Ethnic identification needs to stop."

[Kropotkin]

it was a wartime necessity, and i wish they did it now.

So you're sdaying that the US gov't should put every one with arab decent or that are muslim into camps? Wacko.

[Sava]

They don't need to put people in internment camps. Anyone who truly believes the government doesn't monitor just about anything is naive. According to Yahoo! magazine, every piece of data that is sent over the internet is intercepted by the NSA. Also, every word you speak on the telephone is sent through computers and key words are red flagged.

What people forget is that the United States wasn't really a superpower pre-WWII. Most of the Japanese spies gave information like the location of key ships and targets. Now, that information would be irrelevant because the US military can detect the location of any threats. There is no way a fleet of carriers would get anywhere remotely close to attacking the United States in this day and age. In fact, if any of the countries that the US considered a threat started building carriers on a large scale, the US would probably strike first.

[MrFun]

The stealing of Japanese property, and forcing them to relocate into desert-area camps was based on racism.

The war-time policy bulls**t was a convenient facade.

[Hoek]

The goal shouldn't be to destroy differences, but instead, to identify the "good" differences in terms of identification and the "bad" ones. Ethnicity, which, in reality, is simply PERCEIVED biological linkages, is a poor criteria for identification. I framed my post by declaring my ethnicity to demonstrate that despite my Dutch extraction, I do not identify with the "Dutch people" in terms of ethnicity. If the Dutch were in a fight for their life, I would not sympathize with them any more than any other country in a fight for its life. Canada, Australia, and the other countries mentioned are not based on ideology. The only other country that the world has ever seen that nationalism is based on political ideology instead of ethnicity has been the Soviet Union. It was a multiethnic empire as well, and it defined itself in terms of communism, not ethnicity.

I come from a very liberal, diverse town, in which people had little choice but to be friends with people of different ethnicity. It's college that fosters ethnic identity here.

[Natan]

Originally posted by Hoek
The goal shouldn't be to destroy differences, but instead, to identify the "good" differences in terms of identification and the "bad" ones. Ethnicity, which, in reality, is simply PERCEIVED biological linkages

I don't think that's a good definition of ethnicity at all. In many places, such as the former Yugoslavia and Lebanon and one's ethnicity is solely a function of religion. In most others, it's a linguistic thing. Only pretty rarely is it percieved as racial.

Also, there are a number of countries which are based on religious ideologies. Saudi Arabia, for example.

[WhiteElephants]

Originally posted by Sava
They don't need to put people in internment camps. Anyone who truly believes the government doesn't monitor just about anything is naive. According to Yahoo! magazine, every piece of data that is sent over the internet is intercepted by the NSA. Also, every word you speak on the telephone is sent through computers and key words are red flagged.

Whoa there agent Moulder. That little paranoid ditty was pretty ridiculous. Every word 270 million + is a lot of words, besides being an invasion of privacy and an application of technology that doesn't quite exist yet. Get back to buidling your Y3K bomb shelter and quit fear mongering.

[DarkCloud]

And Sava- how can the government "read" all that information-

paranoia knows no limits

Affirmative action and quotas is not about letting idiots in --- it's about aggressively seeking competent people for schools or careers, who belong to a minority group.

I love how you guys distort the purpose of quotas and affirmative action. It only makes you look bad.

But Mr Fun- it is abused. I know that the spirit behind it is what you say- and I support the spirit- but not the application.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by DarkCloud
And Sava- how can the government "read" all that information-

paranoia knows no limits


But Mr Fun- it is abused. I know that the spirit behind it is what you say- and I support the spirit- but not the application.

If you can find some way to reform affirmative action to minimize its misuse, I am all ears.

But if you advocate abolishing a system just because of past misuse, then following your logic, we need to abolish ALL programs and systems that have a history of misuse.

Where would our society end up, following that logic?

[DarkCloud]

Originally posted by MrFun


If you can find some way to reform affirmative action to minimize its misuse, I am all ears.

But if you advocate abolishing a system just because of past misuse, then following your logic, we need to abolish ALL programs and systems that have a history of misuse.

Where would our society end up, following that logic?

I did not support abolishing it.
I cited how to reform it in the Affirmitive action thread... I believee you know of the thread which I speak. Thr=ere I posted how to make it better.

Make affirmitive action work so that only "minorities" which are the equals or better than whites receive jobs.

Do not let lesser qualified people into jobs!

It would be good for everyone!

[MrFun]

Originally posted by DarkCloud


I did not support abolishing it.
I cited how to reform it in the Affirmitive action thread... I believee you know of the thread which I speak. Thr=ere I posted how to make it better.

Make affirmitive action work so that only "minorities" which are the equals or better than whites receive jobs.

Do not let lesser qualified people into jobs!

It would be good for everyone!

OMG!!! We agree!