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  • #16
    We made CNN:


    THE HAGUE, The Netherlands -- The Dutch government has resigned over a report condemning its failure to prevent the 1995 Srebrenica massacre, the worst atrocity of the Bosnian war.

    Prime Minister Wim Kok's coalition government met earlier on Tuesday for a crisis meeting to discuss the fallout from a damaging report into the massacre last week.

    "(We) are going to visit the Queen. I will offer her the resignation of the ministers and junior ministers," Kok told reporters.

    The resignation comes less than a month before The Netherlands holds general elections and is the second time the coalition government has stepped down during nearly eight years of power.

    The report, issued last week by the Netherlands Institute for War Documentation (NIOD), blamed politicians and top military officials for the failure of Dutch U.N. peacekeepers to prevent the massacre.

    It criticised the Dutch army and politicians for giving their peacekeepers an "impossible" mission to defend the U.N.-designated safe area of Srebrenica.

    CNN's Christiane Amanpour said a lot of "soul searching" was under way in The Netherlands and that Kok had reportedly read the document with a "heavy heart."

    Many soldiers who had become embroiled in the Srebrenica tragedy have said they may never get over the "shame and pain" of what happened, Amanpour added.

    The troops had called for greater military protection from the U.N. at the time, which was denied.

    "It is remembered with great bitterness that they asked for help but were not given any mandate," she said.

    The 7,000-page NIOD report found no evidence linking ex-Yugoslav president Slobodan Milosevic -- currently on trial in The Hague for alleged Balkans crimes -- or Bosnian Serb wartime leader Radovan Karadzic with the slaughter.

    It said the Dutch battalion in Srebrenica stood by while Bosnian Serb forces under General Ratko Mladic evacuated thousands of men from the Dutch camp and drove them off to their deaths.

    The troops should have supervised the evacuation themselves, but the Dutch soldiers were hindered by an inadequate mandate from the United Nations and by their own government, and had been sent on an impossible mission, the report said.

    "Humanitarian motivation and political ambitions drove the Netherlands to undertake an ill-conceived and virtually impossible peace mission," the report said.

    The report criticised Dutch politicians, saying the cabinet, defence ministry and parliament "adopted an anti-intelligence attitude," refusing U.S. intelligence help because of "lack of interest and the negative attitude" of the military and political leadership.

    Defence Minister Frank de Grave and Environment Minister Jan Pronk indicated last week they wanted to resign to appease calls for the government to take responsibility for not preventing the Bosnian atrocity, Dutch media reported.

    Pronk was development minister at the time. De Grave was not a member of the cabinet at the time but was reportedly deeply disturbed by the report.

    The U.N. war crimes tribunal at The Hague has indicted Mladic and Karadzic on genocide charges related to the events of 1995. Both remain at large.

    The largest union in the Dutch military said it may demand a criminal investigation into the report's finding that vital information about the massacre was withheld from the government by the army, which was trying to protect its image.
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    • #17
      Isn't that basically the same article that Zorba posted? It appears to cover most of the same exact facts.
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      • #18
        VVD is right wing, not centrist.

        What does the resignation of the dutch government has to do with a turn to the right? The elections would have been held in 4 weeks anyway, this resignation is mostly symbolic

        Britain will keep a left wing government. In France and Germany it's yet undecided.
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        • #19
          well from the article (the first one) I understood that the resignation helps the right wing gain more votes and that its is very propable that it will win the next elections.
          not correct? (I hope not )

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          • #20
            I think the resignation is an election ploy by the governement parties. They are all down in the polls, and this might boost their credibility a bit.

            And the VVD is right wing, and part of the governement, and also down in the polls.

            And Pim Fortuyn (probably the right winger you are refering too) might get some extra votes from this. or not. At his peak some time ago he had 29 seats in the poll (what would make him the second biggest party). That's down to 19 now (which will make him the 4th biggest party).

            In all the polls that have been held the last months, labour remained the biggest party. Though it's still possible that we get a right wing governement somehow.
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            • #21
              ok, thanks for the inside info

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              • #22
                Isn't that basically the same article that Zorba posted? It appears to cover most of the same exact facts.
                yep

                now I need a fox link to please wiglaf.
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                • #23
                  Don't bother to. I got tired of using that DL.
                  urgh.NSFW

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                  • #24
                    lol

                    Ad Melkert (head of the labour party, since about half a year now) was being interviewed by Jim Clancy on CNN. pretty cool.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by paiktis22
                      Damn why this didn't happen to Denmark which has a right wing government. Now Holland will bite the dust and get a right - wing too.

                      If this keeps going on when we take the EU presidency (next year) we might be the only socialist government in the EU
                      Hey, Sweden won´t get a right-wing government anytime soon. Alltough I hesitate to call the social-democrats socialists...
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Dalgetti
                        Don't bother to. I got tired of using that DL.
                        I thought your DL was Albert Speer...
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Kamrat X


                          Hey, Sweden won´t get a right-wing government anytime soon.

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                          • #28
                            no. I am his DL.


                            ( he did join before me after all )
                            urgh.NSFW

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Dalgetti
                              no. I am his DL.


                              ( he did join before me after all )
                              Damn, I like your DL better than you, Speer...
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                              • #30


                                I think that we better stop this threadjacking. some people don't like it.
                                urgh.NSFW

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